I find Origen a strange name. It pays homage horus. WHy is a believer of Jesus continuing to use a name to another God in their name ? WHy did his Xian parents give him such a name. Imagine a JW continuing to use a name like SonOfSatan or ILoveBaal, surely the WTS would advisse them to change.
Well, why would Mark keep his name? He's named after Mars. There is even a Gospel with his name on it.
The more you read the beliefs of these doctors of the church you realise they were either liars (eg Eusebius) or believed completely different things
The early church fathers weren't infallible, and no one claims they were. Where there is a discrepancy with what is considered to be orthodox, the writing always predates an official doctrinal formulation made when all the fathers came together in a council. Historically, the church has only ever defined something as a "must believe" when there has been division that threatened the unity of the church. There were several things that weren't ironed out. However, there is no case to my knowledge where the consensus of the early fathers goes against what was later considered orthodox. Perhaps one or two writers, but never a majority of the fathers.
Here Justin Martyr admits theres no diff between Jesus and the pagan gods.
He admits no such thing. He is writing an apologetic work during a time of persecution, trying to show that the Christian religion wasn't this evil that the pagans thought should be bloodily stamped out, but was superior.
He goes on to say in that same paragraph:
But far be such a thought concerning the gods from every well-conditionedsoul, as to believe that Jupiter himself, the governor and creator of all things, was both a parricide and the son of a parricide, and that being overcome by the love of base and shameful pleasures, he came in to Ganymede and those many women whom he had violated and that his sons did like actions. But, as we said above, wickeddevils perpetrated these things. And we have learned that those only are deified who have lived near to God in holiness and virtue; and we believe that those who live wickedly and do not repent are punished in everlasting fire.
Big diff!
That's an apologetic work written to the pagans of that time and place, so it is using their themes and beliefs as a framework to explain what Christians believed. Paul spoke in front of the temple of the unknown god in Athens, and stated he was there to talk about him. Similar principle.
You are using Watchtower style quoting. What you are doing is like what they do to others, such as in the Trinity brochure.
