cant leave: i have read it, i gave some honest thoughts, i have stated a few times, the dna science stuff is a new area for me, as is shown many times, if a person gives a view differnt than what you expect they hate truth and are blind, sounds like a religion i know lol cofty i have read it, sorry im not trying to refute something i dont have full knowlegde of, i mentioned fossels before,i wanted to discuss this before and its my fault i had to go to work, my point is for me to refute it i need to see the oppisite side and from there i can see which side is factual, i had mentioned some things and my thoughts were quicky of not much value, as i did i agree i went to a few differnt places. i wanted to start at the foundation of the book, because i think the foundation effects everything else, cantleave you seem to want ppl to give there own rebuttal ,but that is hard for someone who has not spent alot of time in that field, it seems even mr dawkins thinks that wrong ideas dont deserve the same amount of time as true ideas, so maybe thats why ppl who disagree with evolution dont spend that much time with it, either way i have read the book.