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  • besty
    besty
    And he deffinitely wont let the facts get in his way.

    Fact - that which can be shown to be indisputably true

    Which fact is Dawkins ignoring?

  • cofty
    cofty
    Cofty I believe in evolution.

    No you don't, you are playing at semantics.

    This is not about atheism, its about basic science. For you to say we can't KNOW that all life evolved from a common ancestry is precisely as wrong as saying we can't know the earth is flat.

    It is not a hunch, conjecture or hypothesis, it is established beyond all serious discussion. It does not require the approval of theists. You can either find a way to interpret your faith in a less literal way or you can keep chanting the mantra that we don't really know for sure.

    Did you keep up with the Common Ancestry thread? The genetic evidence for common ancestry is the very same as the evidence used in courts every day to prove guilt or innocence and establish paternity.

    I think we both probably have too much time on our hands,

    I know I don't

  • James Brown
    James Brown
    Cofty I believe in evolution.

    No you don't, you are playing at semantics.

    That is what I am trying to tell you every time I deal with you.

    I just want to hear you say it.

    This is all about semantics.

    Your taking advantage of the poor people who don't understand that.

    Or Dawkins is taking advantage of you and you dont understand that.

  • cofty
    cofty
    This is all about semantics.

    No its not its about mountains and mountains of hard evidence.

    You are playing semantics when you say you believe in evolution though aren't you?

    Dawkins is taking advantage of you

    Hundreds of scientists publish thousands of papers on evolution every year - Dawkins is nothing more than 1 scientist who has a talent for writing accessible popular science.

    If you can believe that thousands of scientists are involved in some anti-theistic conspiracy you really do have too much time on your hands.

    I would be interested in your answer to Besty's question.

  • James Brown
    James Brown

    I observe and see many posibilities. My time in the tower taught me that I and man in general

    knows very little when it comes to the origins of life.

    I do believe in evolution. I think if the story of Noahs ark is too be true, evolution is what made it possible.

    For example I suspect Noah had 6 or 7 wolves on the ark and through evolution we today have all the species of dog.

    Thats also why the ark could carry all the animals needed.

    And its also why so many people are blind to the possibility of the flood thinking the ark could never carry all the animals they

    think would be needed.

    I think we both probably have too much time on our hands,

    I know I don't

    Cofty the proofs in the pudding or to put it another way actions speak louder than words.

    Your'e not doing any momentous earth shattering work posting here.

    Nor is anyone else.

    Everyone here everyone who ever went into the kingdom hall had too much time on their hands.

    And that got them in the trouble or place they are in today.

  • James Brown
    James Brown
    And he deffinitely wont let the facts get in his way.

    Fact - that which can be shown to be indisputably true

    Which fact is Dawkins ignoring?

    The internet and you tube is full of debates with Dakins and Christians you have to do your own leg work and

    research. It can take years.

    For starters carbon datting is flawed. Dawkins knows it but he ignores it, because he has the

    agenda of disproving God.

    He is going to do and say anything he can to forward his agenda.

  • cofty
    cofty
    man in general knows very little when it comes to the origins of life.

    But as I have already said a few times evolution is NOT about the origin of life.

    Common Ancestry is beyond serious debate. Abiogenesis is still at the stage of hypothesis. Please stop conflating the two.

    I think if the story of Noah's ark is too be true, evolution is what made it possible.

    Evolution does not work that way. The rate of mutation that would be needed would be impossible. Bio-geography also proves conclusively that species did not spread out from any ark.

  • besty
    besty
    The internet and you tube is full of debates with Dakins and Christians you have to do your own leg work and research. It can take years.

    You made a claim and I asked for an example. Thats all.

    Bait....:--->>>>

    For starters carbon datting is flawed.

    Switch ....:--->>>>

    Dawkins knows it but he ignores it,

    Speculation, Your Honor ....:--->>>>

    because he has the agenda of disproving God. He is going to do and say anything he can to forward his agenda
  • unstopableravens
    unstopableravens

    i guess i can say this, if evolution is true as dawkins says"without id" than when we die we will not ever know,if the bible is correct all us will know believers and non believers.

  • cantleave
    cantleave
    For starters carbon datting is flawed. Dawkins knows it but he ignores it,

    You really are showing your ignorance here. Dawkins like any scientist is aware carbon dating has its limitations, with a half life 5730 years he knows this method is only useful for archeology not geology! He knows that if he wants to age fossils are other geological features there are are other clocks that can be used. He also knows that radiological dating is comparative. It's all in this book.

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