I send this in yesterday as an answer to Jt, cant find it now so i put it inn again,i see also no real answer to my messege,only this crap that i am blind,i am not blind my eys are wide open,i think hate make some of you blind sometime, who comes that nobody take my topic and give me answers,i am waiting,and no blind talk peopel,evrything is not white and blake,and you have a point ther JT when you say i am inn here,i enen suggeston onother bord tha broklyn must have internet our on moday for exampel.I think this cuold bee very usefull,if there are problem you have a fantastic chans to see what it is about here.
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this post is a very good exampel on desinformation,and putt a messege
you want to the reader widh taking forward only negative things,you can do this widh evrything, take only negative things never say anything good,but as human beeing we now that ther is a frontside and a backside, and this who only take one side and show this side as a fackt is a LIER.
I have been Jw fore many years,and I now that we have some things who not is so good,likte this dfd thing, this system´in cong who very easly hurt peopel, even if it is not the purpus.
Then we have some good things, 6 millons who are brothers and sisters from all over the word, nationalism no politics, make us UNIK,
never have a religon have the power to do things like this,make jew, arab,or any other anymie in this word FREINDS, unbelevebel it is.
None here want to say a word abuot this thing, JW are ONE NATION not sweds,not germans , not americans,we are all the same,same belife,same goal, and if you travel you find out his, you have friends allover, i have been in USA,in germany in spain, and other places this nice peopel who help you ,you can feel the spirit, dont say to mee JT that you never feel this . Some say JW are not alone,i dont agree,we are ALONE, none have come to this wordvide freedom of nationalsm, militarism, who have hurt mankind so terribel,as the organisation of Jehovas witneses. And you now the lord say you must bee brothers and love ech others, never understand who you can explain that this bigg religions fitt into this.
LOok at israel today,killing teribbel kriems from both sides,no JW taking part in this, ofcurse catolic does, protestan does, jew does musslim does, a lot of this so calld free borns Christian does.
Look on northern ireland,whats happen there where we have Christan peopel who killing ech other evry day,no JW are ther doing this, Catolic is participation, protestan are participaition, free christans are participation.
Look in former yuoguslavia, terribel murdering from all sides,but now JW was in this,and as i say before the most terribel krimes of all is this happening in ruwanda ,why, catolics was deeply involvd in this murdering, they have even admit it today, but no JW was in this mess.I dont say this because I want to boast, this have bee no easy thing and offers have beeb involvd,but I am very happy to bee involvd in this wordvide nation who have the strength and the power to go against this military madness we see all over tha word today. Must ask you what is the sulution of this,if not a international brotherhod who take away the nationasim poision, ONE PEOPEL ON THE EARTH,
This was one of the positive things never told on this sites, WHY JT.
I can tell morelater, and I no you now them, but never yopu tell it, WHY JT WHY?
advatage of being JW,to JT
by happy man 13 Replies latest jw friends
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happy man
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Guest 77
Happy man, allow me to respond to your post. Let me first say, I'm happy for you being happy. I believe that people should engage in activities that make them happy. Why not? No one owns or controls happiness, it's free just as the air we breath in. Sometimes I doubt that because greedy men finds a way to tax us in everything else.
My first question to you is, why are you on this forum? My next ? is, are you not violating your conscience for being on this forum? Let's begin with those 2 ?'s, OK?
Guest 77
Guest 77
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gravedancer
It is obvious JW's are moronic else they would know that there are tools they can use to check their spelling.
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Frenchy
Happy Man:
Like Guest, I'm happy for you that you are happy. You make a good point about the brotherhood of JW's. It's a fine thing for people to get along with one another. This is very good.Jehovah's Witnesses are taught to work hard, be honest and to live clean, moral lives. This is also very good. I have nothing against that. So yes, there are some very positive sides to being a Witness. I believe that a number of us here on the board agree to that.
Those things in themselves, however, do not make it the TRUTH. I have said many times on this board that I wish that it was THE TRUTH. If it were what it pretends to be, then there are some of us here that would gladly go back and never complain again.
Please allow me to illustrate. You may be having a beautiful dream one night when everything is just perfect. You wake up and you realize that as beautiful as it was, it was just a dream. You can't go back to the dream. You must deal with the real world. Reality is a cold and sobering thing. We may PREFER the dream at times to real life BUT we must understand the difference between dreams and reality. Reality is truth, not the dream.
I hope this gives you an idea of how others view the situation.
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neyank
Hi happy man,
I'm not JT and I'm not speaking for him.
Are you saying the JWs are the true religion because they are unified?
There are many groups on earth that have the same kind of unity.There are others that do not get involved in war.
While it is true the JWs have unity, have you ever asked yourself how they keep being unified?
Aren't there many JWs that don't agree with the WTS but are afraid to speak up out of fear of being disfellowshipped?
Any group will have unity if they are forced to be unified out of fear!
And if there was true unity, why were the brothers in Mexico allowed to get out of the military by paying off politicions while the JWS in Malawi and in other parts of the world, suffered severe persecusion for not gretting a political card?
Do you call that unity?
And let us not forget the teachings by the WTS.
Even if there is a controlled and forced unity among JWS, what about the teachings?
If the WTS had the real truth, the teachings would NOT change.
God does NOT change.So are you saying that because the JWs have a form of unity, they can be wrong about what they are teaching and still be Gods orginization?
I think you should think about this some more.
neyank
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happy man
gravedancer.
i am to lacy to spell perfekt, tools never hird ,but perhaps my boys can help mee,i try to bee more perfekt on this,but even on sweed sites thy complaining on my spelling,hmmmmm
Frency.
Some good points, but we must find something better i have not.neyank.
well I think if all religions have been unsucsessfull perhaps the one who make this come truh tell you something about what is the truth,despite all problems.
This is a very important thing to se what fruit comes from the one and only, it is not only war,it is not taking part in politics, who is the hart of the problem i think, ONE PEOPEL ONE ERTH, no talk abaot we are better beaucause we live in Us or kina or germanym you no this german german uber alles.
thanks for your points, genarly i think many of you here put to much importans in belefe systems, not even the gissipels now who the kindom will be, "are you coming in this time lord?"
I give you one point,gov body is now very close to break important line,if they put more importans to this talk that they are the lords profhets, i think jehova will take care of this if they go over the line,like Salomo did for exampel. -
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Why did the Governing Body get close to that line in the first place? Simple: They are not, and have never been, 'God's Chosen Organization'. It is quite impossible. The WTBTS is a book-selling business that happens to have enslaved 6 million people to their idealistic psuedo-Christian doctrine.
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neyank
Hi again happy man,
Many put too much importance on belief systems??????
Isn't that what the WTS is ALL about?
They have their set of beliefs. And they keep changing those beliefs.
They enforce total agreement on those beliefs as if they have come down from God or the JW will get disfellowshipped.
And yes, all religions have been unsuccesfull. I don't believe there is the real truth found in any of them.
ALL are run and controlled by imperfect men.
It is said that the Governing Body is made up of imperfect men.
And that is true.
Now we must ask,If they are imperfect and make mistakes, why is it that they enforce agreement with whatever they say as if the sayings have come from God?Why is it they call the WTBTS Gods chosen orginization if they say they are imperfect so it's ok that they have made mistakes?
An important question needs to be asked here.
Has the WTS ever taught something that cost people their lives and then changed that teaching a few years down the road?
The answer is yes. ie: organ transplants, political teachings, blood teachings,ect.
Even tho we know other religions are also teaching falsehoods,
how many of them DEMAND their followers to obey without question
even tho those same teachings WILL be changed within a few years?Brother happy man,you do bring up an interesting point but you must look at the picture as a whole.
Meaning just because they have a form of unity, they are still corrupt in many ways.neyank
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Will Power
ONE PEOPEL ONE ERTH
Sounds like UN propaganda. lol So, who is trying to take the place of God on earth? the WT? Can it be?They have already said that they are "ambassadors substituting for Christ" Would Christ let a little girl die because of a man made law prohibiting a blood faction?
Didn't He heal on the Sabbath? Eat with sinners? Break all kinds of man made laws to proof his point that the kingdom was within you, not a big show on the outside or an impressive spread sheet of hours & numbers?The WT & die hard witnesses who are members practice anti-christian behavior, conditional love, they even are anti-christ when it comes to the acceptance of his body & blood as the perfect sacrifice as demonstrated by the farsical memorial ritual. Their goal is to keep you away from God, even to the point of coming right out and telling you, as seen from this years memorial talk.
Do not imagine an outward form, a round of duties, both in public and private, is religion! Do not suppose that honesty, justice, and whatever is called morality, (though excellent in its place) is religion! And least of all dream that orthodoxy, right opinion, (vulgarly called faith) is religion. Of all religious dreams, this is the vainest; which takes hay and stubble for gold tried in the fire!
quote from matthew henry
just food for thought. The WT PRIDES itself on ALL of these above points, they use this to tell people that they are the greatest, the only, the best! The members use this to feel secure that buying/selling magazines (or pre-donating), buying property, & keeping track of prostelyzing time down to the exact 15 min. interval, is what God wants.
Ooops, I smell the coffee, gotta go.
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Francois
TRUTH? The JWs do not have truth. The JWs have published more lies, more false prophecy, more deception, more half-truths than any other religion on the face of the earth.
UNITY? There is a great difference between UNITY and UNIFORMITY. The JWs do not know the difference. Enforced uniformity, throwing out people who refuse to join in the JW lock-step, is a false unity. Rather, it is uniformity.
And JWs have more child abuse, sex abuse, spousal abuse, suicide, neurosis, depression and other forms of mental illnesses than the general population.
Something is very, very wrong. Claiming they have the truth is one thing, demonstrating it is another. An examination of their "fruits" produces horrifying stories of all manner of abberant behaviors.
Better to stay away from the cult known as Jehovah's Witnesses.
Francois