Chat with an ex-bethelite in good standing

by raymond frantz 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • villagegirl
    villagegirl

    The only time we see someone "hiding" in the gospels is Peter, when he denies Christ three times.

    It was an act of cowardice and betrayal that is famous for its infamy, the evil and wicked act it was.

    Mat 26:69-75 “Weren’t you with Jesus, the man from Galilee?” But he denied it before them all,

    saying “I don’t know what you’re talking about.” Then when he had gone out into the porch, another maid caught

    sight of him and said to those who were there, “This man was with Jesus of Nazareth.” And again he denied it with

    an oath—“I don’t know the man”! A few minutes later those who were standing about came up to Peter and said to

    him, “You certainly are one of them, you know; it’s obvious from your accent.” At that he began to curse and

    swear—“I tell you I don’t know the man!” Immediately the cock crew, and the words of Jesus came back into

    Peter’s mind—“Before the cock crows you will disown me three times.” And he went outside and wept bitterly.

    You are making headway with this captive slave of the "organization" This is good news.

    The CORE issues are not arguments over prophesy, they are the exact issues you are addressing, the

    underpinning of their own apostasy in placing themselves equal or above Christ and stepping into the position of

    "Mediator", even to their own 144,000? Lets not even discuss the fact there are NO literal numbers in Revelation,

    where is the Biblical proof for the seperation of yet ANOTHER "Class". Is this then a Class within a Class ???

    heavenly-earthly- special mediators ? What happens to you are all ONE in the Christ ? Galatians 3:26-29 26-29

    For now that you have faith in Christ you are all sons of God. All of you who were baptised “into” Christ have put on the family likeness of Christ. Gone is the distinction between Jew and Greek, slave and free man, male and femaleyou are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, you are true descendants of Abraham, you are true heirs of his promise.

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    Active JWs don't like it when you imply that their leaders are the anti-Christ.

    This was a great post, so I'm re-posting it for emphasis and because it made me laugh out loud.

  • Wholly
    Wholly

    Proverbs 4:18

    But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established. 19 The way of the wicked ones is like the gloom; they have not known at what they keep stumbling.

    Deut 18:20

    However the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 And in case you should say in your heart; "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" 22 When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it. You must not get frightened at him.

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Provebs 4:19 The way of the wicked ones is like the gloom; they have not known at what they keep stumbling.

    " It is true Witnesses have made mistakes in their understanding of what would occur at certain time periods, but they have not made the mistake of losing faith "____Reasoning book page 136

    Like 1914 , 1925 , 1975

    " Some who saw the events of 1914 will also see the complete destruction of the present wicked world."___Reasoning book page 200

    Oops we stumbled, it's gonna be an overlappin' generation not yours

    " ( There, the eating of blood is equated with idolitry and fornication, things we should not want to engage in.) "___Reasoning book page 71

    " Similary, any food to which whole blood or even some fraction has been added should not be eaten "___Reasoning book page 71

    " (1) Bible : Jehovah's witnesses hold to the Bible as the standard for all theirs beliefs"_____Reasoning book page 199

    " As for the various fractions derived from those ( blood ) components and products that contain such fractions. the Bible does not comment on these"____August Awake 2006 pages 11-12

    Oops, we stumbled again I guess you can say we're

    " Always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth" 2 Timothy 3:7

    .

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