Does the WT have any legal grounds to go after "apostates" for defamation, slander, libel?

by never a jw 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Being that the WTS. is full of lies and corruption concerning its doctrines, they would have an exceedingly hard time winning

    or accomplishing anything in court.

    To the wise the WTS. is a commercialized fraud fronted upon religious virtue and honesty.

  • villagegirl
    villagegirl

    I can't believe how much actual FEAR the WT has instilled in the rank and file publisher, the paranoia,

    the fear and tembling at their holy name 'the Governing Body' oooooooooo so scary.

    they are watching you, be careful, see that shiny object?

    Its demonized. yeah, its gonna get you.

  • Balaamsass
    Balaamsass

    Well they are "public figures" so they don't have the same rights as "private" individuals. They would have to prove in court all the various issues are lies...and would need to name the individuals doing the libel..and show damage.

    Can you imagine the juicy court transcripts Barbra Anderson would have posted on her site ?

    The ancient emabarrasing transcripts from Fred Franz and all the Molesters are already dogging them all over the net.

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    And that's exactly one of the many points I make when talking with JW family. WTS can't sue when someone is telling TTATT, and can prove it.

  • karter
    karter

    Appart form the 1st ammendment getting in their way they are too scared to go into an open court were they can't close it down when it suits them.

    Karter.

  • ÁrbolesdeArabia
    ÁrbolesdeArabia

    What I have read, is there is no libel, slander when everything you write is the truth you can prove. They have no case according to various cases and precedents. Tell the truth and you have nothing to worry about on the internet.

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    Tell the truth and shame the devil Watchtower Society!

  • Chaserious
    Chaserious

    Normally it wouldn't really prove anything that they don't go after apostates, since it's not always worth the time and expense for institutions to go after people on the internet. But since the WTS normally likes to go after any perceived violation of their rights, it does stand out.

    There is also the issue of opinion. Opinions are usually protected, even if they might be able to fairly be characterized as a "lie". For example, let's say that I write that the GB is more interested in protecting pedophiles than protecting children. Even assuming for argument's sake that it's false, there wouldn't be legal grounds since there's no way to prove what they really are interested in.

    It's an interesting point. I don't know how active JWs would react to this. I suspect it would have to be someone who already has doubts. Otherwise, I doubt most JWs understand this concept and will just assume there is a good reason the WTS doesn't pursue these people. When it comes to legal matters, they like to sound the trumpets whenever they get a victory but when they lose they say it's because we're in Satan's world and everything is under his control.

  • Wholly
    Wholly

    I'm not sure if my response is totally in line with the subject matter of this OP but here goes.

    I asked my sister if the people reached in door-to-door witnessing who show interest in learning from the Watchtower are thought of as apostates by JW's.

  • Cagefighter
    Cagefighter

    Libel and Slander laws in U.S. are very weak in order to preserve our 1st amendment right of Freedom of Speech. It has to be VERY specific and VERY ugly and must create a tangible and direct harm to the victim.

    For example: If someone says Cagefighter is a lazy, fat, misogynistic jerk on their website... it would not qualify as slander or libel.

    If someone called my boss and said Cagefighter eats live baby squirells for breakfast and my boss found that repulsive and fired me for it. Then I could sue for slander if I could A) prove that is untrue and B) that my boss speciffically fired me for that.

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