Satan's Dirty Deed in 1914

by Yadirf 95 Replies latest jw friends

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Poor, poor Yadirf. Now I understand why you're so mean and rotten most of the time: you understand that the organization you worship is comprised of men so stupid that they've been deceived by Satan for at least 90 years, whereas we "apostates" see the matter of 1914 clearly, and you're frustrated so you take it out on those who point out the many lunacies in the Watchtower system. It's no wonder you're disfellowshipped, having told the wrong ones among your JW "friends" what you really think. Of course, you're an even worse "apostate" than a lot of us are, because we don't think Satan has deceived the "faithful and discreet slave" -- we know that they've thoroughly deceived themselves, in ways ranging from the 1914 nonsense to actually thinking they've been appointed by God to a position of spiritual authority over everyone else.

    Your problem, Yadirf, is that you're a fence sitter. You're too cowardly to take a step fully in any direction and take the consequences thereof. You won't continue with the standard JW practice of prostituting your mind to the Society, which would relieve you of all sorts of mental burdens. You're afraid of the consequences of doing so because you've done it before and it eats you up inside. On the other hand you're too cowardly to admit what all on this forum see -- that JW leaders are self-appointed liars who want worship for themselves -- and so you deceive yourself with the hope that eventually those crooked men in Brooklyn will straighten out. You're too cowardly to accept at face value the Bible's practical counsel that "that which is crooked cannot be made straight". Your cowardice is the source of your fear, and your fear breeds the anger that is so evident to all who observe you.

    Why not just bite the bullet and admit that JW leaders are a spiritually corrupt group that will never change short of the deaths of those who comprise it? Do you really think that God would want to use men for any good purpose who are so full of themselves that they refuse to listen to counsel from outside their own insular, ivory-tower little cadre? You know very well that Watchtower publications are full of deceptions, often deliberate and outright, and all with the full approval and imprimateur of the Governing Body. Do you honestly think that God would ever approve of men who have made a career of deceiving themselves and others?

    Your notion that Daniel 11 will somehow be fulfilled upon the JW organization is purely wishful thinking. It has as much foundation as the claim of JW leaders to comprise a "faithful and discreet slave". These men are masters of declaring the righteous wicked and the wicked among them righteous. According to the Bible God hates such men. How is it that you refuse to see this?

    Your posts are full of hatred and vitriol. You're no more a Christian than you are a rocket scientist. Probably less. You'd like to be a Christian but the indignities you've suffered at the hands of the JW organization have warped your thinking so badly that you can't recognize that they've beaten you to a pulp, spiritually speaking. Really, Yadirf, your relationship with the Society is that of a beaten wife toward her abusive husband.

    Wake up, Yadirf!

    AlanF

  • Satanus
    Satanus
    I’ll answer that with asking you

    At the time i still believed the bible, i concluded that revelation was preterist, that is, it applied in the generation which it was written. So, whatever one sheep in heaven meant, it would have applied 2000-1900 yrs ago. However, as you know i don't have a high opinion of rev. I previously posted the following on your other thread at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=24773&site=3

    Re: The 144,000 must all be selected FIRST! Mar 31, 2002

    Intellectual acrobatics at its finest. You belong up there w YK, stretching the mind to near breaking point to make sense out of a nondensical theology based on hallucinations of delusional prisoner paranoiac of 2000 yrs ago. He, in his turn was influenced by teachings, some originated by a drug taking zeroster. Yes friday, revelation has copied many ideas, sometimes whole paragraphs from the avesta, which is much older than the nt. But have fun:)

    You are the one who carries on like he can authoritatively explain rev. My opinion of it is above. I posted this several days ago on your thread. I would quote the relevant part of the avesta, but it would be lost on you anyway. You probably don't even know what it is.

    SS

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    AlanF

    First off, I hope that you daughter is better and not experiencing much physical pain.

    Poor, poor Yadirf. Now I understand why you're so mean and rotten most of the time: you understand that the organization you worship is comprised of men so stupid that they've been deceived by Satan for at least 90 years, whereas we "apostates" see the matter of 1914 clearly, and you're frustrated so you take it out on those who point out the many lunacies in the Watchtower system. It's no wonder you're disfellowshipped, having told the wrong ones among your JW "friends" what you really think. Of course, you're an even worse "apostate" than a lot of us are, because we don't think Satan has deceived the "faithful and discreet slave" -- we know that they've thoroughly deceived themselves, in ways ranging from the 1914 nonsense to actually thinking they've been appointed by God to a position of spiritual authority over everyone else.
    #1) How can it be said that you understand the “matter of 1914 clearly”? The fact is that you only understand the error partially. Even that’s understandable, because you’re father has revealed that much to you … so that you can be used as his agent for defaming the WTS.

    #2) Me, “disfellowshipped”? Are you trying to just get a rumor started. There’s no truth to your claim here. Are you deliberately lying, AlanF? Or are you just mixed up?

    #3) They were “appointed” by reason of their genuinely wishing to do Jehovah’s will. It’s as simple as that.

    Your problem, Yadirf, is that you're a fence sitter. You're too cowardly to take a step fully in any direction and take the consequences thereof. You won't continue with the standard JW practice of prostituting your mind to the Society, which would relieve you of all sorts of mental burdens. You're afraid of the consequences of doing so because you've done it before and it eats you up inside. On the other hand you're too cowardly to admit what all on this forum see -- that JW leaders are self-appointed liars who want worship for themselves -- and so you deceive yourself with the hope that eventually those crooked men in Brooklyn will straighten out. You're too cowardly to accept at face value the Bible's practical counsel that "that which is crooked cannot be made straight". Your cowardice is the source of your fear, and your fear breeds the anger that is so evident to all who observe you.
    I’m no “fence sitter”, as you claim. The “step” I’ve taken has been a very brave one, and principled too, rather than “cowardly”. I’ve made my feelings known to the Society, and have numerous plans to do so yet. You call that cowardly? A coward is one that does nothing … like you, they just “sit”. I have boldly spoken my mind to the WTS. But I’ve not gone to the Kingdom Hall in order to spread my thoughts around, like an apostate would.

    You charge “JW leaders” with having lied, yet you’ve lied yourself right here in this post of yours. How about that, the pot callin’ the kettle black! Did you, or did you not, lie when you said that I am a disfellowshipped person? Oh, I know, you committed a typo. I’ll allow for that I guess, given the recent situation that you’ve been faced with.

    You’re so very funny it hurts. You quote scripture and apply it to me, when you don’t even believe in Scripture.

    Why not just bite the bullet and admit that JW leaders are a spiritually corrupt group that will never change short of the deaths of those who comprise it? Do you really think that God would want to use men for any good purpose who are so full of themselves that they refuse to listen to counsel from outside their own insular, ivory-tower little cadre? You know very well that Watchtower publications are full of deceptions, often deliberate and outright, and all with the full approval and imprimateur of the Governing Body. Do you honestly think that God would ever approve of men who have made a career of deceiving themselves and others?
    That’s imprimatur, Alan, not “imprimateur”. That’s so unlike you to misspell words. You’re under a lot of stress, aren’t you. Understandable. Perhaps you should rest, instead of work your mind here on a board that is as useless as the word “apostate”. But then again, I suppose that you find this board therapeutic. Wild, but sick!

    Your notion that Daniel 11 will somehow be fulfilled upon the JW organization is purely wishful thinking. It has as much foundation as the claim of JW leaders to comprise a "faithful and discreet slave". These men are masters of declaring the righteous wicked and the wicked among them righteous. According to the Bible God hates such men. How is it that you refuse to see this?
    My “notion” regarding Daniel 11:35 is particularly something that I know about and understand quite clearly. Are you here to tell me that you know how to interpret it? Someone that doesn’t even believe in the Bible knows the correct interpretation over a person that does? You’re not being reasonable, Alan.

    Your posts are full of hatred and vitriol. You're no more a Christian than you are a rocket scientist. Probably less. You'd like to be a Christian but the indignities you've suffered at the hands of the JW organization have warped your thinking so badly that you can't recognize that they've beaten you to a pulp, spiritually speaking. Really, Yadirf, your relationship with the Society is that of a beaten wife toward her abusive husband.
    Wake up, Yadirf!
    Can you show me where God said to love what is bad? Apostates, that is, what apostates stand for is BAD. Yet, I’ve never said that you apostates positively won’t make it into God’s Kingdom. So, why is it that you call me a hateful person. Have you ever read the replies to my posts? I’ve never heard you label such ones hateful, as you have just done with reference to me. You’re a little lopsided, aren’t you Alan?

    Yadirf

  • apostate man
    apostate man

    Friday, what year were you born? Thats when Satans dirty deed really started.

    Break the chains that bind you,
    unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    SS

    You raised "a serious question", according to your own words. I addressed your question with a relevant question that answered your "serious" question. Your only comeback now is 'I don't believe Revelation", have no respect for it whatsoever'. Well, la de da, what's next. This is so interesting. I thought your question was "serious"? But like I said at the start: A “serious question” may ass! Out of YOU? No way!

    Provably stated, SS, You chickened out!

    .

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    apostate boy

    You show your true age everytime you make a post. I won't be addressing you as "apostate man" any longer. You have a lot of growing up to do, mentally and morally. There's no mistaking that.

    .

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Why don't you answer my avesta post? You ignored it on your other thread, and you are ignoring it here. Why is that?

    SS

  • apostate man
    apostate man

    Well, at least I have something that's the truth. Thats one more than you, FRY DAY.

    Break the chains that bind you,
    unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    SS

    "Avesta post"? I can't address a post that is as unclear as that. Maybe you understand what you're talking about, but I don't. Perhaps you could look at the sentence structure, revamp it, and come back.

    The fact remains, that you chickened out!

    .

  • jerome
    jerome

    Yadirf = Flame on!

    Why not start on me?

    The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.

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