Are we all bitter? (page 4)

Deus.ex.Machina

Though I was not baptized (so my struggle may be different from those who were), I was raised in "the truth." In fact, my mother was pregnant with me when she was baptized. I spent the first 18, 19 years of my life being told that everything about me was wrong for my refusal to be a joiner. It takes a toll on the spirit to be told that you are a bad person, defective. So I am quite bitter because I was denied unconditional love as a child and very little self-value was instilled me.

In fact I have recently moved back in with my parents. I believe they are geniunely disappointed that I am not shaking my fists with rage at the world because I've had a hard time finding a new job, and this should have proven to me that the world is full of evil and to store treasures only with Jehovah, blah, blah. The first week I was here my mother asked if I was attending the meeting that night. I said no. (I have not been to a Kingdom Hall in over 10 years. So it's not like I have ever sent a mixed signal about my choice.) She did not speak to me for three days. The rejection still burns.

But with that said, I don't think it's fair to lump everyone together as all our histories and motivations will vary. Also I don't think bitterness is an unreasonable emotion when one looks at all that was lost and wasted. But I do think it's terrible to remain bitter forever. While I haven't worked through the bitterness phase, I don't want to be in this place forever.

QC

No, I feel fortunate. More convinced than ever before that the Bible is true. The JW and RC meltdown is fulfillment of prophecy.

villagegirl

Bitter ? I think this board has people of all ages, and all circumstances. Some

left years ago, some are still attending. Some are still stunned and confused

and even frightened. There is a Post Your Photo thread that shows a lot of very

happy families who are now free and living enriched lives as a result. People who

are "apostates" often do not show up here. Its a way-station , or a means to do

a reality check of what happened to you and influenced events in your life, like

not going to college because the WT advised against it and the dirty looks and

shunning you got when you tried to go to college, then years later you wake up

and realize this should not have happened. I am so happy my own daughter is

living a productive full life and has two of her children, my grandchildren in college.

I am happy I got free, I am so grateful for Ray Franz's books. We might come here to

whine , but all of us are living better and fuller lives for having freed oursleves from

a punishing, shaming, closed society of dillusional and misled people, and an organization

that protects and shields the pedophiles in its midst. What a price to pay to belong to a club.

lost

QC ... do you really believe that ? seriously ? because I have thought the very same thing and I've been wondering if anyone else.

Not bitter no. Sad. wish I'd known then what I know now. A lot of us a just victims of birth really. life's a lottery. Just have to get on with it. Thankfully now at least we are not controlled mentally and emotioonally by it no more. Thinking positive is more helpful to ourselves. But yes, it's a process which is difficult.

villagegirl

Think of women born deep in some Muslim Village and wearing a Burka

I imagine that it what it is like to be "born in" I was stupid enough to

get myself entangled against the advice of my parents.

DanmeraDinglebum

Find out you you were lied to your whole life, years stolen based on that lie, family destroyed based on a lie, etc....yeah I would say there is some bitterness.

Am I a bitter person? Angry? Sad? Etc. Not at all.

2+2=5

I think the forum is well balanced. There is a definite bitter finish, but I think that is to be expected.

The bitterness here is pretty rounded. Striaght away I like how seriously fruity the aroma is, think tropical stone fruit or candied pineapple. Then I am hit by sweet malts and caramel upfront, with some toffee and biscuit notes. The finish is a nice orange peel like bitterness. The bitterness is there as it should be, but it is not definitely not harsh, and it is balanced out well by the intial sweetness. All in all a great profile.

I am just glad I woke up now at 28 rather than 58 or something. I do feel for those that spent the majority of their lives in the religion. Their bitterness is to be expected, but it never dominates the overall supportive and positive feel of this site IMO.

trujw

Who is bitter? I don't think I called jws mentally diseased and basically the offspring of satan. Am I the only one missing something.

humbled

2+2=5, that is why I came back to the forum. there is some real HEALTH in the population here. I have often told others that this is a place that has a good exchange of thought. There is dissension with discussion.

sometimes criticism. but a sense of fair play makes it possible to come "out" here.

occasionally there can be a caustic burn--but usually someone shows up with a band-aid for you. Didn't happen when the brothers processed me out for the FDS.

problemaddict

It is an OUTLET. I tried to have a normal human conversation with a friend of mine this weekend, and quite frankly it isn't possible. In the real world, the onus in on the person leaving, to do everything "just so", so as not to have the overactive JW imagination dive into hyperspace at the thought that you no longer look to 8 men in Brooklyn for spiritual advise. They don't even hear themselves as they say some of the craziest things you could say to a person who has the IQ of an 8th grader.

So yeah.....when you come here you get to unload a bit. Thats all this is. In my actual conversations, I am much more sophisticated with how I introduce information. Here I am amongst "friends".

Your friend doesn't know what a forum dedicated to a subject really entails. Tell him the 20th Century called and he left with their ideals.

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