Anyone have a record of lies told by the WT.

by jam 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • jam
    jam

    Example, In print (May 22, 1969 WT, you will never die).

    Bold face lies, to show that this organization have been lying

    out of their rear since day one. Something that can not

    be denied. Words from the GB in print.

  • unstopableravens
    unstopableravens

    greber;55 they warned about him, 60s,70s they used him and in 1983 they imply heavly they just found out in `1980 he was involved with spirits in translation, then they lie and say the wt deems in improper to use someone that has a close repor with demons.

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    "There are, in fact, many other things also which [they lied about], which, if ever they were written in full detail, I suppose, the world itself could not contain the scrolls written."

  • jam
    jam

    unstopableravens: greber, in what way did they use him, did

    they quote something that he wrote as truth? Who is greber?

  • jam
    jam

    I would love to compile a list of lies and hand it out

    to every JW that come to my door and tell them, see if

    this is not truth. Your organization have a history of lying.

    That,s a no no in the bible.

  • unstopableravens
    unstopableravens

    greber is an ex catholic who translated the new test, with the help of the spirits, he wrote a book called communication with the spirit world, he transkated john 1:1 as "a god" so the wt used him a support for john 1:1 and matthew 27, if if have the wt cd-rom type in greber start with the 55 and 56 articles.

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    Yeah, it's called the Watchtower Library CD.

  • transhuman68
  • Splash
    Splash

    JOHANNES GREBER (SPIRITUALIST) IS A QUOTABLE SOURCE FOR THE WTBTS

    NO - w55 10/1 p. 603 par. 33 Part 3—What Do the Scriptures Say About "Survival After Death"?

    It comes as no surprise that one Johannes Greber, a former Catholic clergyman, has become a spiritualist and has published the book entitled "Communication with the Spirit World, Its laws and Its Purpose." (1932, Macoy Publishing Company, New York)

    NO - w56 2/15 p. 110 par. 10 Triumphing over Wicked Spirit Forces

    Says Johannes Greber in the introduction of his translation of The New Testament, copyrighted in 1937: “I myself was a Catholic priest, and until I was forty-eight years old had never as much as believed in the possibility of communicating with the world of God’s spirits. The day came, however, when I involuntarily took my first step toward such communication, and experienced things that shook me to the depths of my soul.

    YES - w62 9/15 p. 554 par. 5 "The Word"—Who Is He? According to John

    Similar is the reading* by a former Roman Catholic priest: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This was with God in the beginning. Everything came into being through the Word, and without it nothing created sprang into existence." (John 1:1-3)

    *The New Testament—A New Translation and Explanation Based on the Oldest Manuscripts, by Johannes Greber (a translation from German into English), edition of 1937.

    YES - w75 10/15 p. 640 Questions From Readers

    Thus the translation by Johannes Greber (1937) renders these verses: "Tombs were laid open, and many bodies of those buried there were tossed upright. In this posture they projected from the graves and were seen by many who passed by the place on their way back to the city."

    YES - w76 4/15 p. 231 Insight on the News

    A report in the Bible, as translated by Johannes Greber, says that when Jesus died, "the earth quaked, and the rocks were shattered..."

    NO - w83 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers

    As indicated in a foreword to the 1980 edition of The New Testament by Johannes Greber, this translator relied on “God’s Spirit World” to clarify for him how he should translate difficult passages. It is stated: "His wife, a medium of God’s Spiritworld was often instrumental in conveying the correct answers from God’s Messengers to Pastor Greber." The Watchtower has deemed it improper to make use of a translation that has such a close rapport with spiritism. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) The scholarship that forms the basis for the rendering of the above-cited texts in the New World Translation is sound and for this reason does not depend at all on Greber’s translation for authority. Nothing is lost, therefore, by ceasing to use his New Testament.

    Splash

  • unstopableravens
    unstopableravens

    thanks splash! i wish i could copy and paste!

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