The Mantan the lost tribe of Wales

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  jgnat

  You know, they might have developed lighter features all on their own.
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  soontobe

  Have any of you done ancestry research, any surprise findings.

  My G Grandfather was the product of an affair between noblewoman and a servant. My family name comes from the family that adopted him. A troubled youth, he stowed away on a steamer around 1900, and wound up in Cuba. I really can't trace my tree on that branch further back than that at this time.
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  designs

  I bet your G grandfather had some great stories to tell about life in Cuba.

  I remember my Dad's father telling us great stories of his life as an engineer on the Rock Island Pacific Railroad. I have his marriage certificate from Silverton Colorado dated 1889. Albert would smoke these big cigars after dinner at our house and put the cigar ring on our fingers. He had a glass eye from a RXR accident and would sometimes take it out and set in on the table, you can imagine the bragging rights we had with the other kids on the block- Grandpa has a glass eye and we got to touch it!
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  PaintedToeNail

  It could be the Matawan Indians, a Lenape tribe, that is/was in New Jersey. 'Matawan' was an adulteration, by the white settlers, of what the Indianscalled themselves. There is still a Matawan borough in New Jersey.
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  designs

  Painted- how many of the Matawan are there.
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  PaintedToeNail

  designs-The Lenape are also known as the Delaware Indians, which is also the name of a state and a river. The Matawans were a sub-tribe in the group of Native Americans that shared a common language, Lenape or Delaware. The Delaware/Lenape groups were decimated by European disease, such as small pox and measles to fighting with other groups making up the Iroquois Nation, the French-Indian War and the Revolutionary War, to white settlers invading their lands. I do not know if how many of the Matawans are left, or if they are represented in any of the Indian Reservations in the Eastern USA.

  Sorry I don't have any more accurate numbers.
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  designs

  So many of the Indigenous Nations were decimated by small pox and other diseases they had no immunity to.

  My parents took my brother and I to the Mesa Verde Cliff Dwellings when we were 6-8, they had lived in these very developed cliff villages for centuries and then they were gone, maybe some merged with other groups. They had fruit orchards and grazed animals. You look at the villages of the Mantan or Matawan and other groups that developed villages and they show a lot of complexity.
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  ballistic

  it should be easy to prove, did any of these so called Welsh decendants keep farming sheep, and uttering "BOYO" at every opportunity? ;)
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  PaintedToeNail

  designs-Just a thought, there is a fairly large Welsh presence in the Delaware River area due to the mining operations. Some of the old timers still speak Welsh and crossed the Atlantic as infants, some are first generation Welsh.

  The Slate Belt area of Pennsylvania, located on/near the Delaware River, has an abundance of Welsh, Cornish and Italian people, the worked in the slate quarries. The Slate Belt area is made up of Bangor (named for Bangor, Wales), Pen Argyl, and Roseto. The Slate Belt Heritage Center has a "Welsh Room" and Bangor still celebrates Welsh Days, and their are Welsh churches in the area.
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  designs

  Thanks for that info, my SIL and her family live in Pittsburgh, next time we get back there I will try to arrange for a trip to the Slate Belt.