How to identify Publishers who know TTATT

by His Excellency 36 Replies latest jw friends

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  wasblind

  How to spot awakened ones :

  Those in the " Troof "

  Those who know the truth

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  snakeface

  There are some who still "have to" attend meetings (or feel they have to) because their family does. Some may be young adults who live at home, some may be wives whose husbands are still "in". Some symptoms of these might be, not arriving early to fellowship, but, instead, arriving at the last minute and leaving immediately afterward. Also, not commenting or rarely commenting. Not singing the songs (as opposed to those who think they are giving a concert and the rest of the congregation are their backup singers). If they go out in field service, not talking at the doors. Not attending any of the social functions such as congregation picnics, not meeting with others who go out to a restaurant after the Service mtg, etc. Usually they are not "friends" with anyone else in the congregation.
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  jw07

  Look out for dubs who are naturally curious and ask allot of questions, but stop just short of outright questioning WT doctrine out loud.
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  NewYork44M

  You ask a great question, if only there was a secret handshake...

  I was in the same situation as you, and I am sure many can relate. Going to the meetings when you don't believe is a very very lonely experience. It would be great if you could find others of like mind. The problem is that if you find these people, possibly sitting a row away from you at the meeting the very fact will blow your cover.

  So, there is no easy answer. If you start interacting with like minded people you will be branded a trouble maker, so all the work in your fade will be for not.
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  NewYork44M

  But in retrospect you can always spot a faker.
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  LongHairGal

  SLIMBOYFAT:

  You described me and I am sure some of the "shunners" I run into must suspect I know it's B.S.

  LOST GENERATION:

  I understand the feelings of the guy you described who looked as if he wanted to vomit on the floor. I felt the same way once my eyes were opened.

  I decided there was NO point to even be there anymore and I quickly "faded" cold turkey from regular meetings.

  Besides, I could no longer stand most of the phonies there. I was literally squirming at the last memorial I attended two years ago. I couldn't wait to run out!
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  irondork

  LOL @ Wasblind
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  A.M. Number 1

  Yes, the gag factor made it impossible for me to continue going to meetings. I just couldn't fake it anymore.
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  TheSophist

  I too would either feel sick or get extremely angry. It's why my wife no longer wants me to go with her. This coming from the woman that said she wanted me to go just so she wouldn't look bad. Then she woke up and realized it was better I didn't go as my muttering to her everytime some logical fallacy bull***t thing came up is more suspicious than me just dissappearing.
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  jwfacts

  Great question, and I don't have an answer. As FatboySlim said, potentially those that just attend the memorial. However, there is need for caution when approaching anyone that may seem to be a fader, as you never know when they may be reinvogorated and turn on you.

  When I as leaving, tthere were a few people in my congregation that I thought may have had doubts. I thought I could speak to them about my thoughts. I was wrong in all cases.

  1. The first one was a very good friend who always would say how much she hated being a JW, and could not bear the idea of living forever. She was only in it for her husband as it help keep him on the straight and narrow. She said she would not shun me if I stop going to meetings because "she is not in a cult." Yet as soon as I was disfellowshipped she completely shunned me.
  2. The other rarely ever attended meetings. Her husband was a good friend and loved talking about all the gossip in the congregation or at bethel. Yet, it turns out she had a strong relationship with Jehovah, but was just very sick.
  3. The third was a young mate that loved the Matrix. I thought he was prime for recognising the need to take the red pill. He did not want to discuss anything with me and is now an elder.

  I still believe their conversations and behaviour shows they do doubt the organisation, and are suffering cognitive dissonance. The mind control is so strong though that it is tough to speak openly with them without upsetting them, and turning on the thought stopping techniques.