The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon 226 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    Just because you're a noob who has never met any of these people doesn't make them nobodies in the ex-JW community.

    Ahh...the old 'your just a newbie' bulls**t. A comment which has no value whatsoever.

    I've been here a little while...I've never met any of these people either. And due to the behaviour shown by the recent AAWA organisation...I have come to my own conclusions. They are all nobodys to me. As much as they are all somebodys in their own lives and to the people who know them. Sometimes I think people assume that their reputations preceed them. Well, they can think again. Their reputation is only as good as their current behaviour.

    You don't have to have been a poster here forever to be able to smell bulls**t. And AWAA has given us plenty to sniff out. If any of them had good reputations...obviously that is something they are willing to risk losing for this group.

    *lost* I have appreciated your part in this discussion. Thanks.

  • Terry
    Terry

    I'm only jumping in here because I'm so damned old and seasoned I hope I can command enough respect that you folks might stop and listen for a minute.

    Chewing each others toenails off doesn't solve problems.

    There is plenty to be upset over.

    But, does it really cost us anything if we are more civil with each other?

    My 17 year old daughter was telling me today that on the SHERLOCK tv series discussion board there are currently DEATH THREATS from one faction because some posters revealed spoilers for the upcoming season!!

    Death threats? Really??

    My god!

    So, be the better person.

    It is so easy to lose control when our hackles are up. But, we can't see each other eye to eye and I doubt we'd behave

    so aggressively in person---why do it here?

    I'm just making a plea for kindness. Human kindness. It doesn't cost a cent. Right?

    The world is just people and not angels or devils. Those people are us.

    We can do better.

    I really believe we can discuss rather than lash out, blame and name-call.

    You don't have to listen to me. I've got no dog in this fight. I'm just a 66 year old ex-JW watching a streetfight and nobody seems to

    want to step in and stop it.

    Back to your regularly scheduled programming....:)

  • moshe
    moshe

    Only faders have these kind of problems. Getting outed will happen again, if they keep using social media.

  • *lost*
    *lost*

    ooooh ....... double double standards MAD SWEENY

    you have done this before ... attacked me ... saying I'm stuck in JW judgemental mode ... you muppet ....and you have gotten away with it as I don't have enough posts to get into long discussions.

    You don't know anything about me - NADA - YOU - are the one stuck in JW mentality - I feel sorry for what ever abuse you have suffered (whatever) but it doesn't give you license to ASS- UME and go around being abusive, offensive, angry and bitter.

    Guess what, the world doesn't owe you. YOU are responsible for your life. For your actioons, and your actions speak volumes. I didn't cause all of this. Oh, no, Who did then ? I wonder.

    Really it is unconsciousable that you would defend some of the things your 'friends' have said and done, by their own deeds. they have no one to blame but themselves. But it seems some of you are so sanctimonius and delusional - you just will not accept the facts. I hear people banging on about how it's a PUBLIC discussion forum ..... freedom of speech. until the finger is turned around and pointed right back at ya.

    Who does that remind me of ... let me think ... oh yes, the very same people I hear everyone bitching and whingeing about all the time off people here. Things I never even heard of until I heard people here telling the truth about what is really going on in WT land.. and it disgusts me, I am ashamed to even mention the name JW and ex-jw - to be assocciated with something so vile.

    The minute I found out about child abuse etc.. that was it. End of. Books in the bin. I will not give support or be associated with soemthing so disgusting, with so many disgusting, false, lying, hypocritical people in it's ranks, perpurtrating abuse on their 'brothers and sisters' like I said before, Christians my ass. they want to practice what they are preaching. Then you got people covering things up, hiding things, victims having to fight tooth and nail for justice. WT and Jw's.

    I'm not bitter, I'm not angry. I don't hate anyone. I see the nastiness bitterness of ex-jws towards their former 'brothers and sisters' and I cringe, it makes me ashamed to say I am ex-jw on that basis alone. Oh and God forbid if anyone says they still believe in God and goodness and morality and standards, they get shot down.

    If the cap fits as they say. You want to take a long hard look in the mirror. The truth hurts, get over it.

    If you know them personally - SO WHAT. Go back to the beginning, and read through everything. Truth is truth and FACTS are facts .. the evidence is all there. If you haven't got the mental capacity and common sense to realise that - well, I am not responsible for your level of intelligence or mentality. I don't know, maybe being a JW mushed your brain a little ( if your ex-jw, I don't want to be presumptious )

    STOP assuming you KNOW everything because they are your buddies. That is why you cannot be OBJECTIONAL - is there a vested interest on your part there - looks like.

    ACTION speaks louder than words you know.

    Take your glasses off - GET YOUR BIG FAT FOOT OUT OF YOUR BIG FAT MOUTH.... your getting upset cos someone who actually has a moral code and integrity is telling it EXACTLY LIKE IT IS.

    SO ... maybe you want to take your own advice ..... it doesn't matter HOW LONG you have been here .... what a stupid statement to make ... oh my gosh ... it's your ball is it ... little temper tantrum there now ...... OH God, my heart is broken ... I have upset a CHILD and he is throwing his toys out of the pram .... tut.. tut .... suck on something to soother your frazzled little temper there. You don't own this BOARD.

    This is about AAWA and the scandalous, shameful behaviour that ensued as a result. If you don't like what you hear - don't listen.

    We had the piss took out of us proper. We cared about the people involved to try and put things right and limit damage control. How many chances were given. Lo and behold - it just kept getting worse the longer it went on and unraveled.

    What you want to sweep it under the carpet and hide the truth. Really, cover it up. the fact that people were used, abused, lied to, insulted, veiled threats, lives wrecked. pleeeeeeeeeeeeease are you ever normal. ( oh, aren't they the kind of things that happen in WT - guilty by association, accessories to the crime I'm afraid )

    I used to get upset and angry about this and the carry on as I humanely cared about Cedars & his nearest and dearest, who were taking the piss out of and tricking and conning people. Yeah, I saw through it from the get go... now I laugh about it, cos it's pathetic.

    Those have have a brain know what I an talking about, I don't need to explain it. I certainly don't have to explain myself to you - your a nobody. If you lack morality and integrity and honesty because you want to cover up for your friends, then you are every bit as bad as them.

    Have you got a vested interest in this BUSINESS. JIMMY SAVILLE did a lot of good work too you know, gave millions, look at what he did and all of the people who knew what was going on and turned a blind eye. Protecting their own selves, sacrificing children. Cover ups are cover ups and lies are lies, there is not excuse just cos it comes in a different package.

    If people throw rocks .. you know what .. we throw them back... some of us have a better aim.

    So if you thought you were going to attack me and embarrass me or hurt my feelings or upset me - YOU WERE WRONG. I've dealt with bigger and better than you and your little nest of friends.

    So i suggest you STFU yourself... and grow a backbone for crying out loud. YOUR AN EMBARASSMENT.

    nighty night now .. sleep tight .. don't let the bed bugs bite.

    LOST no more - I have found the real TRUTH. Disgusting as it may be.

    xx

    edited to add @ so sorry it's so long people, I know you have better things to do. But I don't have posts, had to get it all down.

    Still thinking - thank you. hugs and kisses. to a fellow upstanding, moral person with some integrity. xx

    I'd say if Jesus himself came down to sort this fiasco out they would crucify him all over again. turds.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    YOU'RE!

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free
    YOU'RE!

    There's never a "Like" button around when you need it.

    W

  • Simon
    Simon

    STOP

    Let's not allow the AAWA to cause bad feeling on here.

  • Terry
    Terry

    STOP

    Let's not allow the AAWA to cause bad feeling on here.

    Dang! Simon is much pithier than I am!

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    I'm just making a plea for kindness. Human kindness. It doesn't cost a cent. Right?

    It would have been human kindness to delete the fb page as soon as they were aware it was causing harm to others. But they didn't. Hence the anger and frustration at their organisation while they took their own sweet time to actually DO anything about it.

    What you are talking about here is manners. Definitions of manners change over time. I think it is bad manners to harm people the way AAWA has. I don't care about the use of swear words...etc. They really are irrelevant. As is blasphemy. Just because something offends your senss, does not make it offensive. Just offensive to YOU. We choose whether to be offended by something or not. And no one has been threatening anyones life here...that is an exageration. Some topics get heated. Thats life. That comparison is also irrelevant to what has happened here. And. AAWA, the organisation is responsible for the harm it has caused innocent people. So the blame is put where it belongs. Just as the WTS is to blame for it's actions. Isnt' this why AAWA has been set up in the first place...they are anti watchtower and they are laying blame where it belongs, they are outing the harm that the WTS had caused. Unless, they don't intend to do this. Then really, what are they being anti about?
  • *lost*
    *lost*

    In all fairness now Simon.

    I'm not mad here giving out like. But come on. If someone want to abuse me, well, like I said, throw rocks at me - I might just throw something bigger.

    It is not right for people to jump all over me - cos I'm a newbiee !!! what kind of a dumb thing is that to say. In all fairness. I've had him and Tylin doing this to me repeatedly and getting away with it. What goes around comes around.

    You know as well as I do, when all this started everyone was supportive of AAWA - the name was a problem yes. They spread their own slurry and aired their dirty linen in public and sunk to low depths with their shenanigans. I'm not being nasty, and I resent being insulted by a stranger who knows didly squat about me. Because they don't like the truth about their friends.

    I WOULD NEVER LIE, DECEIVE OR CON OR INTENTIONALLY WOUND ANYONE. when I see people trying to do it to others, yes, I am the first one to stand up and say it's not right. This is not a game. It's people's lives.

    I knew from the get go how this was all going. And I have been proved right. By their very actions they have showed the true facts of the matter.

    People want to just pick on what they think is and easy target cos I'm a 'newbie' lol. really. I cannot believe these people are adults.

    If you walked up to a stranger in a pub and abused them - they would drop you like a dog, on the spot. Just because they can hide behind fake I.D's and a computer doesn't make it ok.

    I have a right to a defence. I'm sorry if people don't like the fact that I am forthright and tell the truth.

    And apologise if anyone wants to be negative and assume that I am being unkind, this is text, there is no vocal tones, facial expressions, it's easy to be misrepresented in what/how you are saying something. But they are not little kiddies, they are adults.

    edited to add;

    SIMON

    when his excellency put up that stupid post - I was forthright in saying it was disgusting and wrong. I had Tylin onto me again back then, yeah I told him a few home truths, only cos he provoked me, he has repeatedly done it. and mad sweeney like a little tag team. i apologised afterwards on post in public to Tylin - for the greater good.

    Now he is saying in public I launched a 'vile' personal attack on him. total exageration. It wasn't vile at all. Then he's saying it was so bad you had to remove it ?

    Was the reason you removed it because it was a wrong thing for him to post.

    Did someone ask you to take it down. Cos I told someone it was there and it was wrong, you know who.

    People want to pick fights with me - fine, but I fight back.

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