I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

by Sic Semper Tyrannis 423 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • ÁrbolesdeArabia
    ÁrbolesdeArabia

    Geico and your other insurances will provide you a Umbrella Insurance Policy to cover any litigation from Malicious Prosecution from the web, cost is usually $230 a year for $1,000,000 in coverage. If you have another insurance for your home or agriculture and cars, the cost can drop to $165 a year, that's a cheap lawyer, and they will attempt to respond to your ISPs request to release your name before a lawsuit is started.

    Cedars said "People have been sued for less", yes that's true and people have had to pay frivilous legal fees to the defense. Why would he say things like that, Chaserious should comment on that reply. I was in a lawsuit with a technology company because posted financial information and comments made by the CEO in 1998, I won the lawsuit and I was paid damages by the Plaintiff because the judge ruled it was malicious prosecution for expressing Freedom of Speech. I proved everything I wrote about this company, all info were with the SECs forms and conference calls used by the company. The technology company was a boiler-room (They went BK in 1999.) and the ended up paying all my legal cost plus $63,000 in damages, I revealed a huge fact about myself, if someone know how to look up early case studies and the paving of California's Freedom Of Speech and Muzzling, you might know who I am...... ;)

    Post by Simon:

    "Yes, I sent a PM trying to offer some support and to apologise if it seemed I was being too hard on them. Got some threats in return - not only for the region/country location but also that even though we'd already removed several unconstructive comments / insults directed toward the AAWA he didn't think we'd removed enough of them and was trying to claim that 'people had been sued for less'.

    I tried to tell him what I thought he was doing wrong and why I believed it was being mishandled but I don't think advice is anything he wanted to hear, never mind listen to, even if it was given in private.

    Oh, and he wanted a public apology from me so here you go Cedars:

    I'm sorry ... that you have handled things so badly and continued to poor your own gasoline on the fire you started by acting in an arrogant and dismissive way when concerns where brought to your attention. I'm sorry you exposed other people's identities and seriously affecting people's lives and also tarnished other people reputations who had the misfortune of deciding to embark on this endeavour with you. I'm sorry I feel the need to keep the warning up about AAWA so anyone who googles it can see how you treat people. I'm sorry, in hindsight, that I agreed to let you post your announcement in the first place. I'm sorry I took your side when you whined on and on and on about being attacked and threatened by someone on the site when in hindsight I was fooled and should have deleted you instead."

    "Happy?"

  • Watchtower-Free
    Watchtower-Free

    Sorry I made a insensitive remark. Without thinking it through enough . Please forgive

  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    WHOA!

    Good grief. Alot of mistakes here, but the greatest one of all can still be avoided.

    We are all here for various aspects of the same reason. There was an issue, that started innocently enough, but had reprocussions that harmed others in some ways. Although I believe there was a better way to handle some of it, we are where we are and thats it. Why are we going to toast the entire thing at this point?

    It has gotten canibalistic around here, and that is exactly what will not do us any good. LEts put the pride away, all come back to the table, and figure out a way to work together. I think the mistakes have been made, and will ensure they will not be made again. We are all serious about our privacy, so the way some of this came up is not good. But honestly, what is it really going to tell someone. The person "outed" jsut has to say i have no idea how that came up. Not only is it true, but its true!

    Lets not let this be a permanent stain on this community. We need a group as an extention of this board, that is more involved in bringing things to light, working with the media, and offering protection and support. An initial failing does not mean we should loot the building.

    Simon seems like a reasonable person, and Cedars has contributed much. You guys have lost other "solgiers" for the cause behind things that we can all move past.

    So lets show the WT exactly what kind of men and women we are. Ones that forgive, ones that change when needed, ones that stay stong and united for what we know is good for others.

  • whathappened
    whathappened

    Sic, I feel bad for you. In my little world, my daughter and son in law said if I talk against the Watchtower Society in front of them they will cut me off completely. I had to beg them for this because I was so over zealous in trying to get them to see the truth about the truth they were ready to disown me.

    I hope you can write or call your family with a heartfelt plea, to give you the benefit of the doubt. FB is full of horror stories, you can get out of this mess I hope. Some of us ex JWs love our families. This corrupt religion has taken the first 56 yrs of my life, and they are not going to take my relationship with my daughter and grandson. I feel for you and hope for the best for you.

    To Simon and Cedars, I respect you both. This is a sticky mess and it is going to be hard to patch things up because emotions are all running high and people are hurt and upset, some for very good reason. I am sure no evil intent was in either of you. If you two great men can find a way to fix this it would be great. Can you do it? How can this be fixed?

  • trujw
    trujw

    Wow that escalated quickly. Anchorman Ron Burgandy

  • BluePill2
    BluePill2

    A couple of thoughts. I've read through the whole thread.

    Simon: Deep respect to the way you handled this. I am very impressed and cannot thank you enough!

    Flipper: As you did with me a couple of years ago, as far as I can see, your post was the only one that offered a very human way to help and was full of empathy. You offered me the same help when I posted here the first time (under another name, not Bluepill at the time) and it resonated with me. Thank you for being YOU. You would give a wonderful elder. LOL

    Sinis: I have to agree with everybody that it is up to each person how to deal with this horse manure. But I also have to say that I truly enjoyed what you have posted on this thread. I faded for years and the pain was only growing. I went cold turkey and it was hurting like hell, lost my marriage and was hurt financially, but it feels thousand times better.

    Cedars: I supported you when you started the group. I defended you when the "name issue" came up. I loved your posts on this board. But THIS? Really? THIS thread and what you have posted here shows that you are not interested to help individuals and are certainly not treating people as valuable human beings that have been f**** by the WT. Sad to see how you are dropping the ball on this one. I kind of sensed that something like this would happen. Why? I've been a member of this board for over 7 years, but the dozens of discussions around AWA started to really bother me as they where creating divisions. Something that I hardly saw for the past years. Lots of negativity...

    Facebook: To use FB for your activities was the most stupid idea ever. You just need to google around for 5 minutes to see that it is ABSOLUTELY unsuitable for a group like that. Let me state this with other words: Using FB for "secret anti-WT activities" is as good as recommending people to use a fishing net instead of a condom!

    Please, do yourself - and everybody here too - a favor and read this about FB: http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2013/01/21/facebook-is-recycling-your-likes-to-promote-stories-youve-never-seen-to-all-your-friends/

    I absolutely hate Facebook. I've seen people breaking their real life friendships over FB shit. I've had business friends with serious problems related to identity theft because of Facebook. Myself? I had FB for 2 months and deleted the account, because someone used information about me in the most vile and malicious way you could think off. I don't even want to tell the story here, but it was very painful to get my life back!

    Facebook likes things on your behalf and you don't even know it. They had cases of vegetarians "liking" MCDonalds without their knowing! Don't believe me? Google it. All kinds of stupid stuff going on with FB. I hope they disappear and go to hell!

    Finally: Sic Semper Tyrannis > I am very sorry for your distress. Do whatever it takes to get your situation back under control. You can do it. Humans become unbelievable creative if the stakes are high. We are here for you. Keep your head up.

  • whathappened
    whathappened

    Problem addict:

  • yourmomma
    yourmomma

    i lost all respect for cedars, he is worse than rick fearon in my book. and i am blown away by the people like sinnis on here, what assholes! wow! im going to stop posting about this as to not later regret what i say.

  • BluePill2
    BluePill2

    Delete the Facebook group. Best advice so far.

  • trujw
    trujw

    Remember MTV death match. We could have Simon and cedars in it. Oh wait that's right NOBODY cares about are stupid religion in the whole world except us.

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