by Monsieur 418 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
If you cant see the green dot then stare for longer at the +, or maybe you are colour blind lol. Yeah it took me about 5 seconds of staring for it to happen 1st time.
or, maybe you have to WANT there to be a green dot? Are you open minded enough to see the green dot?
To all those whinging about skeptics spoiling their thread about ghost stories, please note that it has been posted under - Watchtower Society > Beliefs, Doctrines and Practices.
cofty- one of the surprising things about witnesses when I got involved in the early 60s was the talk about demons and demon experiences. At sleepovers talk about what happened to so and so being harassed or molested by demons was shocking for a newbie.
Yes cofty...and the question itself is misleading...Re: Who has experienced a REAL demonic incident?
First we have to establish...was it REAL?...lol
Anyway...I've just been off reading about Carlos Castaneda...interesting guy. He had his own cult. With a little harem of women who appear to have killed themselves after his death.
The funniest thing I read about him was that a Scientologist (Richard De Mille) argued that HIS work was fiction.....ROFLMAO!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda
And yes...that green dot IS a demon...
still- We humans seem to have a propensity to be attracted to strong charismatic personalities, and when they offer a superior connection to some alternate reality we jump on the band wagon to easily.
Can you imagine some University allowing a class the use of LSD and peyote today lol.
One of my favorite things to do as a kid was imagine being in a Ferris wheel and creating in my mind the sensation of going over backwards, felt totally real.
I can relate to that...as a kid I believed I could fly. I really believed it. For a while anyway.
I thought I could just rise up into the air and float there a few feet off the ground. To this day I still don't know if I'd had a dream that seemed totally real and the feeling lasted in my imagination for a few days, or if I had just convinced myself I could fly. I don't remember. All I know is that I knew I could fly.
I must have outgrown the flying....cause I can't now...hee hee hee
Under the influence of halucinogenes they could see themselves from 'above' looking back on their bodies laying prone.
It's not particularly surprising that people hallucinated while under the effects of hallucinogens. They couldn't actually see themselves from above. Their brain extrapolated what they could see (or had seen), and made up the rest.
Can you imagine some University allowing a class the use of LSD and peyote today lol.
They were a LOT more open minded back then. lol
And I can relate to their LSD experience. It's insane.
I was just about to tell a story about another friend of mine...but I think I'll stop there. People might start to wonder what sort of person I am....LOL
I'd like to point out that i know some scary shit happens and some things are difficult to explain, but to resist seeking rational explanations in favour of the supernatural is a very limiting behaviour. MOST things can be explained, some though are very puzzling and appear to defy explanation. All that means is that the real explanation hasnt been found, not that it cant be found.
Some of the difficulties are in the transmission of the information. The perception of the eye witness, the beliefs of the eye witness, the agenda of the eye witness etc etc. Details and language used in conveying the story can alter based on these points. So even the hardest demonic possession scenarios available needs to be revisted from scratch and the witness testimony firmly tested before it can possibly be accepted. This is called evidence for a reason, it has to stand up to scrutiny.
In court an eye witness is scrutinised to validate or invalidate the testimony. If a person reports hearing screaming and states the time and duration and also the distance they were away (think Oscar Pistorias case) then they can expect that testimony to be tested to see if it is valid, i.e just because they say it happened that way is not taken as FACT.
Damn my slow typing, the conversation has moved on, LOL ...
I'd like to point out that i know some scary shit happens and some things are difficult to explain, but to resist seeking rational explanations in favour of the supernatural is a very limiting behaviour. MOST things can be explained, some though are very puzzling and appear to defy explanation. All that means is that the real explanation hasnt been found, not that it cant be found. -WMF
Yes I totally agree WMF. There is nothing supernatural, there are only natural things that we don't yet understand. Like trying to explain electricity to an ancient Egyptian.
