@ thequietone
"I was outed by JWN" actually means "I was not outed by JWN"
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"1300 members were outed on JWN" actually means "1300 members were not outed on JWN"
OK - got it.
I was *not* outed and compromised by JWN!!
by blindnomore 223 Replies latest members private
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The Quiet One
Sorry about that besty, I just have some weird thing about defending people, even when they don't deserve it. 3rd time reading I realised.. Hang on, she said entire FB group..WTH? Can anyone email Aawa with a link to this thread, saying that we need a response? (I can't, no way are they getting anything from me that is traceable, call me paranoid)
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It it truly tragid what Blindnomore has suffered at the hands of watchtower. I can only imagine what a living nightmare it is. To have to sit there with your child and allow that to happen to your child as you are being manipulated and controlled by cult members.
As a parent myself, if anyone did that to one of my children - there would of been be bloodshed in that room. No doubt about it.
Unfortunate and as shocking as it is - it does not give one justification for wrongs they themselves do and to inflict harm on others. Quite simply, in this world if you attack people then you should be aware of the consequences of your actions. So far many people here have been very gracious and kind towards her regarding this thread. People could be very inkind if they wanted to and attack her and tear her apart, they have not. as they are good, kind, caring people who are giving her largesse, due to the fact she has had to endure a living nightmare.
Is she being used to create a smokescreen for AAWA ?
Potentially, yes. ( How disgusting to use a vunerable person in such a fashion, God how low can someone go. If it is true it shows AAWA will sink to any depths and will scrifice anyone who gets in their way )
Does it smell, yes. ( The timing - AAWA new launch/spin/slandering of JWN )
Why. Because of the whole AAWA debacle. It does actually appear to be that it was an intentional attack on JWN, simon, and the members here, to discredit the site in favour of AAWA. (again) People will take what they want from a picture. Which is why we always need to present facts.
JWN and Simon and the members are entitled to a defence. Nobody here has done anything wrong. Why should we be accused of such ? A lot of people here have had to shovel through a mountain of sh*t this past month to get to the truth and facts.
Should this thread be taken down and removed ? NO - Why not ? accusations have been made and there has to be a defence, quite simple.
If you call people's integrity and honesty into question, the truth and facts have to come out to prove those accusations wrong/unfounded/slanderous. Otherwise this sites reputation will be shot down across the world. Why whould that be allowed to happen. Who would want that to happen.
still thinking
well done for having the courage to say what many others were thinking. Watch out for the rocks though, lol x
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The Quiet One
No rocks will be thrown by me.. ;)
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Witness My Fury
So wait, this wasnt satire after all? or was it? I'm confuzzled..
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The Quiet One
I'm glad its not just me..
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The Quiet One
"it is onething to add someone to FB without consent it is another thing to outing the entire secret FB group to the public which is maybe a CRIME!" -- If it helps, this line indicated to me it's not satire..
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rebel8
So, were you added on the FB without your knowlege by the AAWA members? Were you outed? What was the actual damage you suffered I want to hear? Was this malicious? Purposeful? I don't think so. Why not accept some responsibiliy for your own actions? By being on jwn in the first place and FB and doing all these posts that reflect your feelings. You cannot remain annoymous forever take some courage and take a stand. Or be a wuss forever.
I believe you have confused Simon being added to the Facebook. That happened to me.
The existence of your troubles does nothing to lessen mine--that is simply illogical.Furthermore, your post is unbelievably rude and uninformed.
Perhaps checking into who you are calling a wuss would have saved you the embarassment you should be feeling right now for being so wrong about and hostile to me.
Epic fail.
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still thinking
If you call people's integrity and honesty into question, the truth and facts have to come out to prove those accusations wrong/unfounded/slanderous. Otherwise this sites reputation will be shot down across the world. Why whould that be allowed to happen. Who would want that to happen....*lost*
You know *lost*....this is a repetitive nagging feeling I have about anything AAWA. It's probably totally off. But there seems to have been a lot of effort put in to discrediting JWN and its members. Not to mention the astounding amount of misinformaton put out by them. I find that odd. When all we are asking for is honesty. Is it possible that good people are being used? I know there are a lot of good people associated with AAWA.
And there's quite an emphasis on information gathering. ie. Send them information about yourself so they can look into it. I want IP addresses so I can hunt people down, AAWAS emails were hacked (really???). And information leaking.... VERY slow damage control. Not to mention surveys, where we give away information for free!
It's getting kinda creepy. And I don't think I'm the only one feeling this way about it.
Can anyone email Aawa with a link to this thread, saying that we need a response? (I can't, no way are they getting anything from me that is traceable, call me paranoid)...The Quiet One
I feel like that too...
And it doesn't help AT ALL that John Cedars is an invented name and the organisation is lead by a person that WE CANNOT VERIFY FOR OURSELVES.
I'm not even sure that the fact that his name (which isn't really his) on a legal document leading a legal corporation is LEGAL. Was that ever cleared up?
And my mind still keeps coming back to this quote by Lenin...
“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”
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Still thinking
I live in the '' real world '' not cloud cuckoo land. My perceptions / thinking processes even paranoi if you want to call it that. Is based on a lifetime of observing/dealing/experiences with '' people '' and '' base human nature ''. We are NOT living in a disney movie. For people to be so naive as to think these things don't actually happen is frightening. It's like the difference with a street kid and a country kid. Poles apart.
I for one agree with what you are saying.
How on earth can you claim to be a credible '' organistation '' when there is no ''evidence'' to back it up ? these things take years to build up. Then compound that by the fact said organisation is run by a person using a fake identity and no-one knows who that person is !
It is quite astonishing that people are either choosing to ignore the facts/evidence and go so far as actively defending something that is obviously not right, or they have an ulterior motive for doing so.
Edited to add; Where does the saying - '' the devil in disguise come from ''
... let's go round again ..... I actually was relieved this, I thought this had been put to bed. then along comes someone to stir it all up again. lol.