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AudeSapere

Scully - That analogy works perfect. Thank you.

And, I responded to your pm.

-Aude.

Hi AudeSpaere: I did a project a few years ago about all their BS doctrines and one of the subjects I did was on blood. Randy Watters has it on his Freeminds page and you can download it. It's in pdf. Go to pages 22 - 25 I believe and feel free to print it off and show it to your father.

When my brother in law was dying, I convinced him and my sister that the Organization's ban on blood tranfusions was absurd and completely without scriptural support. While they did end up taking blood, it was too little, too late for him. Out of frustration and rage at watching him slowly deteriorate, I phoned Bethel and spoke to some idiot in the Writing Dept. about the blood issue. I was prepared for every argument he had. Of course, he was more concerned about who I was and what congregation I went to than in dealing with the issue at hand. Finally at the end of the conversation when he had nothing to back his drivel up, he told me that "if any changes needed to happen, Jehovah would direct it through the "Slave". End of conversation. I really wish I had taped it.

There was someone else on here a couple of years ago who had a family member in the hospital and who was refusing blood. She emailed me about my project and I sent it to her. She printed it off and gave it to their daughter (the person in question) and apparently she read it, thought about it and decided to take the blood.

Here is the link: http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=758:marys-project-an-analysis-of-jehovahs-witness-doctrine&catid=11:bible&Itemid=698

Feel free to PM me as well.

Thanks to Scully for alerting me to this thread.

flipper

AUDE SAPERE- My wife and I send our best wishes to you and your parent for hopefully a successful end to this blood situation. Hang in there. Please know that we are with you in spirit. This must be very difficult to say the least in this challenging situation. You are a smart capable person who knows her stuff. I know you'll handle it well. Keep us posted on how things go O.K. ? Sincerely, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper

Mary

Has anyone heard anything from Aude Sapere?

Dagney

I need to check on her. On top of all this, she was in the wild fire area last week. You could see the flames right from her house.

Scully

MARY

check your PMs

myelaine

dear Aude Sapere...

have you thought about calling in the JW Hospital Liaison Committee and confronting them with the "official" documents on blood fractions etc.? Then they would HAVE to advise your parent regarding the availability of some course of treatment using blood (or risk their own "blood guilt" don't forget to mention that!). This might ease the parent's mind and in so doing allow them to make the best choice.

I hope for the best for both of you.

love michelle

AudeSapere

@Flipper's - Thank you for your thoughts. I was actually thinking that dad might enjoy talking to you as you have a few things in common. He has no one to talk to who can really understand what he is feeling. If you are open to a chat, let me know. I think he would enjoy the Tahoe 'fest but the car drive is not practical. And he's not a camper.

@Mary - Wow! I'm thrilled to see you here. And thank you so very much for the pm. Majorly helpful. I re-read some of the posts about your brother-in-law. While I followed them at the time, I had forgotten how incredibly gut-wrenching that entire situation was. My concerns are a fraction of what you were dealing with. Thank you for you work back then and for taking time to connect with me this week.

@Dagney - I got your text but only just now could respond. May we can do something next weekend or the one after that? Here, there, points in between???

@Scully - Awesome. and thank you for sending Mary.

@myelaine - Interesting. I had not really thought of that. I thought of something similar, but not the local HLC. Thank you for the suggestion.

To all who have inquired and shown concern: Dad is doing very well. A few set-backs this week but overall healing very well. Thank you for helping me help my dad. I don't come this board near as often as I used to. But is sure feels like 'home' once the posting starts. I love this place.

Oh! And as for the fires here. My poor, beautiful mountain is all charred. My house still smells like smoke and my lungs are a little tight but all is good. I don't know what happened to all the deer and rabbits and coyotes. It's been quieter than normal at night without the wildlife. My mountain has been my 'centering agent'. I love to take a few minutes and step outside and just stare at it, take a few deep breaths and just let go. When I did that on Sunday, the soot was still in the air. I gagged, coughed and then cried. My mountain is sick and it makes me sad. And my lemon tree is dead. The mountain will recover. The tree, I think it's a lost cause. Overall, it's been a challenging week.

I don't even want to talk about the nightmares at work. Suffice to say, I'm so happy it's Friday.

Good night and happy Friday to everyone.

-Aude.

Comatose

Take care Aude. So sorry about the mountain. Take pictures, it will come back for you and you can compare the shots. Hang in there.

talesin

I am sorry to read of your troubles; it's heartbreaking. I was once, not nice to you, and sincerely apologize for being an ass.

Am with you now, and sending much love and good energy.

t

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