by compound complex 19 Replies latest jw friends
Thank you, LV, Snare, lost and Scotoma, for good, helpful information.
If you want to make life decisions based on these accounts, first one much analyse the source of the material.
Your points, Snare, are well taken; however, Warrior's and my life's decisions are no longer dependent upon any of this. If my word choice was incorrect, I apologize. I simply wanted to share some of what we discussed yesterday and get your viewpoint, which -- thank you -- you have given!
THANKS, all!
CoCo
I second what Lost has to say. Its very weak when anytime
anyone wants to explore some non-watchtower but still believer,
discussion on this board that the "bashers" arrive. And start mocking and
making fun of anyone who wants to discuss theology,
no matter what theology, the only thing that seems safe her is atheists
and gays and any point of view that is about witchcraft etc -
But bring up a scripture, questions on the Bible and
you get cartoons of people throwing-up and mockery and bashing.
Please try to treat even people with apposing views with some dignity.
Allow others the courtesy of exploring their own beliefs
even if they do include God.
I am speaking to you as the grandmother I am.
If you can't or don't want to contribute then leave it alone.
scotoma - I went to a Seventh Day Adventist meeting and they washed each
other's feet, and mine, it was somehow a very profound experience, hard to describe.
The new Pope washed poor peoples feet to.
Firstly JC was only interested in "saving" jews, he says this many many times. This count easily outnumbers the lone scripture about preaching to entire earth. One can read this scripture in Matthew to also only mean jews scattered about the earth. You might think this is incorrect, but the apostles Peter and friends thought the same, until paul had a new idea.
At no stage did Jesus attempt or say to preach to gentiles. So if your gentile you have nothing to worry about.
Sctomoa
Why don't JW's wash each others feet.
MP:
Forget the feet, i want to see Christians grab and shake each others balls just like Abraham and everybody else did in Roman times. The test in testament literally means testicles, because thats how people took oaths.
Given women dont have balls, that also means they cant be part of the Christian fun because thats how God instituted oath taking.
See Genesis for Abraham asking his slave to grab this balls and make an oath before travelling to get a wife for Isaac.
hmmmm.
there's a lotta women out there that got bigger balls than men.
@lost
But god wants balls he can see. Jehovah has a penis fetish, circumcision, testaments, balls inspections for high priests etc. Theres quite a lot of laws in the Torah about balls.
Why don't JW's wash each others feet. Their excuse is that we don't walk with sandals on dusty roads anymore. But that misses the point of instituting a ritual. A ritual is intended to be repeated so that the lesson becomes more than just a nice thought blazing through the brain.
The thing is, many people (not just JWs) do not read this text as Jesus instituting a ritual, but as his providing an example of humble service that might be expressed differently in different circumstances. In a desert environment where people wear sandals, it might be expressed as washing of feet. In modern society, it might appear as offering a cold drink or coffee or tea to someone who comes to your home. Or, perhaps, helping out a poor or homeless person with a meal. What Jesus was saying his disciples should do for each other is not the specific act of foot-washing, but the attitude of service to others at the cost of one's own convenience.
That said, like villagegirl, I have attended a Seventh-day Adventist church and participated in their foot-washing ceremony, and found it to be very meaningful. What surprised me was that it was not so difficult or humbling to wash the feet of another person. What was really tough was sitting there and allowing someone else to wash my feet. That was where I really needed to bring up some personal humility, and it made Peter's response to Jesus (John 13:6-9) much more real to me. So I have no issue with churches that choose to practice foot-washing in a literal way, but I don't believe that Jesus' words require such a literal application.
hmmmm
there be some veeeeeeery pritty she-males ouut there that got both lol
