The day JEHOVAH.....went POP! (page 2)

glenster

Nothing among known things or ethics will prove the basic God concept or not,
only to reject added religious or political stipulations that misinform or cause
harm. The ability to hope or not for a possible basic God beyond the known
things will remain.

mP

I think it can be argued that the NT and OT have different Gods. Marcion was right, too bad the Catholic Church destroyed his beliefs and religion.

clarity

Terry that hand puppet is not only reaching for your mind

......he is reaching into your pocket for your $$$$$$$$$$$!

clarity

RayPublisher

Interesting notion and it starts out well...but this is the first time I haven't liked one of your posts Terry...sorry bro I still believe in God despite you making fun of him. It's not about the name it's about the fact that I can't see everything happening by random chance- just saying...

gingerbread

If anyone is interested in the topic of myth, customs and parallel belief systems that exist in every culture, I suggest reading the works of Joseph Campbell. Watch his interviews that are available on YouTube. I suspect that the origins of this thread have been skimmed from this source.

Terry

this is the first time I haven't liked one of your posts Terry...sorry bro I still believe in God despite you making fun of him.

You missed my point!

The "character" we call JEHOVAH pulled a disappearing act between the book of Malachi and the writings of the New Testament.

Surely you don't dispute that.

He is sort of like Captain Ahab in Moby Dick now. He lives on in literature and little else but the Watchtower Society.

I don't think JEHOVAH is what "god" is about. Do you?

I think I'm old enough and have the experience in life to possess enough humility to say PEOPLE DON'T KNOW what they think they know about

the subject of GOD!

We just know the stories.

We know what we have been told.

We read things in old books.

But, mostly those are stories told around a campfire.

Whatever and whomever "god" really is------is beyond the power of the human mind to pin down and draw a chalk circle around on the floor!

ambersun

Wow!

I just read your opening post twice and if I understand it correctly then I agree with everything you say. It is brilliant!

Trouble is my head hurts now from having to think it all through. I bet you could hear the rusty cogs whirring away inside my head from across the pond lol

Oh, my unicorn has just come in from harrowing the valleys and needs feeding. Must go

hamsterbait

JWB -

Dont be so RIDICULOUS!

Jehoobie wont get mad at Terry - He will be sooo sooo saaaad. Why would Mean MEAN Terry make jehoobie sad sad sad?.

BUT - when jehoobie is sad he gets MAD: When he gets MAD: he gets MEAN: Then he goes into a homicidal psychopathic frenzy and starts killing people.

' Member how he sent his angel who was going back and forth seeking a way to KILL Moses baby, cos he wasnt circum (sorry) genitally mutilated?

Poor sad mad mean baby - what does it feel like not getting all your own way all the time?

HB

Terry

It is worth thinking about the___pardon the word: evolution__of the character Jehovah beginning with Genesis.

Stop and think about this!

In the oldest writings we have a kind of anthropomorphic God (attributes of humans) who is WALKING around in the garden in the breezy part of the day and is calling out unwittingly to Adam!

Where oh where could that wacky Adam be?

This little stroll reveals a god who is just shocked--simply shocked that Adam has discovered his own nakedness!

Later during the construction of the Tower of Babel Jehovah is sort of peeking at the naughty humans who are trying to build a Tower that will reach into the heavens! Lions and tigers and bears--oh my!

Now I have to ask you this question, seriously---how tall do you think this building will end up being? Even the Great Pyramid was under 500 feet tall!

What does that have to do with the story? The rather naive and under-educated writers of Genesis had the world view that the Earth was flat and there was a Dome (heavens) or firmament where god lived above it!

Was Jehovah afraid man would reach his dwelling place? GASP!!

My point in mentioning this is to demonstrate that the story is very much as primitive as the ideas of the people telling them.

As time passes Jehovah grows more and more distant and remote until he sort of reaches his shelf date and expires.

glenster

To give credit to early believers and the idea of faith understood as such,
the harshness of a Jehovah representing the earliest drafts of the idea, when
there were tribal disputes and Mosaic law punishment, seems to have already been
taken into account by Christians, who ended it and didn't ask for their religion
to be made law of the land with punishments, and the Jews, with capital punish-
ment being made rhetorical in the 1st two centuries AD by the earliest rabbini-
cal Jews.

"Forty years before the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 CE, i.e.
in 30 CE, the Sanhedrin effectively abolished capital punishment, making it a
hypothetical upper limit on the severity of punishment, fitting in finality for
God alone to use, not fallible humans."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_capital_punishment

Some later developments (Theodosius I in 380 AD, Muhammad, etc.) were 'centric
political regressions.

The day JEHOVAH.....went POP!

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