With the July 15 WT approaching, would this be the ideal opportunity to start an ACTIVELY VOCAL fade? (page 2)

gingerbread

Cap'n - as I've read some of your earlier posts on JWN, I see that you are fairly new in deciding to make an exit. I encourage you to take a step back (and a breath) and let everything "simmer" for a bit longer. Perhaps you're raising these questions because you're not sure of your immediate future. Take some time to build your own personal conviction about the realities of this religion (organization).

You can't change your wife's mind. She must to this by herself. You can help this process along by taking time with her to "learn" about the history of JW's as an organization, the origins of the core beliefs and the changes in policies & doctrine. Be patient.

The course you've decided upon is a "minefield." If you get excited/anxious and run across, you will take a hit. Don't blow up your marriage during the escape.

jgnat

Captain Blithering, perhaps to walk the plank with confidence, try completing a http://www.proconlists.com/

problemaddict

Hey CB,

Minefield is right! Take your time. Acting confused is certainly one way to go. It jsut has to be calculated, and you have to be a good actor. :)

whathappened

Captain, I don't believe I have welcomed you yet.

I recommend you say something to the effect that you have been taking your issues (which will remain vague) to Jehovah in prayer, that you would hate to discuss it with anyone, because you don't want to cause divisions in the congregation. When pressed, say you just can't talk about it. Then fade, fade, fade. Let your wife see you studying the the Bible and the November 2013 Watchtower study edition with a concerned yet perplexed look, yet say nothing.

Newly Enlightened

One thing that might help. The 'New light' has totally thrown Russell to the curb. But yet in 1971, they were saying this: WT 71 12/15 pg760-761

HOW

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How did this governing body make its appearance in recent times? Evidently under the direction of Jehovah God and his Son Jesus Christ. According to the facts available, the governing body became associated with the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. C. T. Russell was patently of that governing body back there in the last quarter of the nineteenth century. Being fully dedicated to God through Christ, he set himself to apply his time, energy, abilities, wealth and influence to defending God’s inspired Word and spreading its message. To that end he began publishing Zion’sWatchTower back there in July of 1879, believing, as he said in its columns, that this had Jehovah’s backing, and hence there would be no solicitation for money. He manifested the qualifications of an overseer as set out in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9 and accordingly he was requested by the congregation of Christian Bible students at Allegheny to serve as its pastor or spiritual shepherd. Five years later Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society was incorporated and served as an “agency” to minister spiritual food to thousands of sincere persons seeking to know God and to understand his Word and to come into relationship with him through Christ.

Dedicated, baptized, anointed Christians became associated with that Society at headquarters in Pennsylvania. Whether on the Board of Directors or not, they rendered themselves available for special work of the “faithful and discreet slave” class. They aided in the feeding and directing of the slave class, and thus a governing body made its appearance. This was evidently under the guidance of Jehovah’s invisible active force or holy spirit. Also, under the direction of the Head of the Christian congregation, Jesus Christ the Son of God. True, the members of that governing body were not directly appointed by the Lord Jesus Christ.

5go

I hate to say this the longer I fade the more I have to say their is no real fading option. Once they sence you are no longer pulling your weight you are marked and that is it you are a DF brother in the waiting. They want little to nothing to do with you (unless it profits them) outside of the meetings and even then just enough to try to get you back in whole souled and pulling your weight. Once they see that's not going to happen they will write you off again.

Either leave outright, or learn to live with the BS. So far I am living with the BS but I am outright leaving in 2014-15 once I see the masses leave or if they don't I will leave anyways.

Newly Enlightened

There was also an article we came across last week and have been looking for it for the past 2 hours, but can't find it. But it said that there were 'dissenters' [Ray Franz & the group kicked out in 1980] claiming that the only time they WERE the F&DS was when they met together to dispense the spiritual food.

We'll keep looking and if anyone knows which article we're talking about, we'd be happy to know.

A.M. Number 1

I would say, do not under any circumstances show your hand. Do not indicate any theological doubts. Stick with : depression, materialism, work, school, other health problems, even a little driinking problem or something. anything would be better than putting them on your scent in my opinion. Once you raise that doubt, you can't unraise it. And what is the deal with the July 15 Watchtower. I haven't heard.

5go

I have to agree with number 1 I was grilled about doubts but because I said the magic words ( BTW they are : What ever the GB says must be true so I will wait it out) they didn't DF me but they might as well have when word got around that I had doubted the watchtower.

trujw

Sorry cb it doesn't matter what you say. You are gonna get it one way or another. Number one sign of a cult is their is no honorable way to leave. You are either in or out make a choice or lie and fade quietly still you are going to lose family and friends just not as many.

With the July 15 WT approaching, would this be the ideal opportunity to start an ACTIVELY VOCAL fade?

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