Don't JW's deride " wordly people " for not responding to the good news because those people believe they already have their paradise? The JW's already believe that they are in a " spiritual paradise!?!? " Does anyone else find that ironic?!
Jehovahs Witneeses live in a spiritual paradise.....? What is wrong with this statement....or What is right with this statement
by smiddy 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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LongHairGal
smiddy:
This statement is a palliative fib that is told to make JWs feel good when there is nothing to feel good about. It is sort of a self-deception mantra. Keep saying it over and over and maybe it will seem true.
Maybe some gung-ho JWs, fresh from one of the assemblies back in the old days before everything went downhill, might have deceived themselves into believing they lived in a "spiritual paradise". But, now?
For me, I thought the JW religion brought more pain. And, mind you, I felt this way back in the day when I still sort of believed it.
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Jehovahs Witnesses..
Live in a Spiritual Paradise..
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Quendi
Is the phrase “spiritual paradise” in current usage among Jehovah’s Witnesses anymore? Or has it gone the way of such expressions as “pure language”, “theocracy” and other words which characterized the exclusivity the WTS wanted its followers to believe they possessed? Whatever the case, we all know that “spiritual police state” more accurately describes the conditions inside the cult now.
Quendi
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Ucantnome
My opinion is that after Matthew 24:31 fulfillment was moved to the future there isn't a basis for being in a spiritual paradise from 1919.
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BluesBrother
Doesn't the July 15 W/tower demonstrate that everything that they believed about the prophecy of the "last days" and in particular their source of spiritual food was totally false. So their Spiritual Paradise of accurate knowledge fed by "nourishing spiritual food" was no more than an illusion?
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DATA-DOG
Quendi,
NONE of those phrases have gone anywhere..
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a watcher
stillin, you came closest to the right answer than anyone else.
It is a spiritual paradise if you're in it for the right reason: to nurture a close personal relationship with Jehovah.
If you're in it for any other reason, you may be wasting your time.
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smiddy
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As they say a picture speaks more than a thousand words
smiddy
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Ucantnome
I understood that that Isaiah 11:10 was fulfilled in Jesus standing up in Kingdom authority in 1914. There is I believe a cross reference from Isaiah 11:12 to Matthew 24:31 in the NWT./ Man's Salvation Out of World Distress At Hand!( 1975 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania) Page 198.
When I read Isaiah 11:10 and Matthew 24:31,32 they sound very similar.
Isaiah 11 I believe is still understood to have it's fulfillment from 1919 with the gathering of the remaining ones of spiritual Israel and Isaiah 11:6-9 has a fulfillment from 1919 with the knowledge of Jehovah changing personalities and I thought this is the spiritual paradise.
I think the July 15th 2013 Watchtower shows Matthew 24:30,31 to be future. Not the gathering of Isaiah 11 of the gathering of the remnant from the four corners.
Paul in Romans 15 quotes Isaiah 11:10 in regard to the Gentile believes being admitted to the Christian congregation. In my view to have a gathering of the remnant in 1919 on the basis of the good news being preached in fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 and a return to the spiritual paradise and it having nothing to do with Matthew 24:30,31 and Matthew 24:30,31 having nothing to do with Isaiah 11:10 I find hard to accept and in finding hard to accept I think that the 1919 return doesn't really work for me.
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