Well, at a recent meeting, a sister commented, "So if the Governing Body ever asks us to do something that doesn't seem right, we just need to trust them and follow their direction and do it anyway.". Quote unquote, verbatim. Like lemmings.
I know this sounds crazy but, what if?
by earthfire 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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MrFreeze
Ha! No they wouldn't do that. The JW religion is not about the Bible. It's about controlling people and making money.
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prologos
Who were the TARGET apostates in that Jehu- rush to Justice?
The ESTABLISHMENT. The G-overning B-rother, the first lady, Jezebel, her majesty. Rev.2. in the christian congregation(s)
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Violia
yes Blondie what about new light , like this current DC? It declares almost everyone an apostate.
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blondie
It may declaree everyone but jws worthy of death but that jws are going to do the executing? I don't think so. For years over 50 of mine the WTS has stressed that Jesus, the angels, and the already resurrected anointed will be the executioners.
*** ka Thousand Year Book chap. 9 pp. 154-155 par. 19 The Post-Millennial Test of All Mankind ***
. Choosing the side of Jehovah God, they let him make expression of his universal sovereignty and prove it to the misled disloyal ones. They let the battle be Jehovah’s and so do not assume to act as His executional forces and fight with lethal weapons. This displays, not only faith on their part, but also perfect integrity toward Jehovah God and his universal sovereignty. Let Him himself save them and destroy the disloyal ones! Trustfully they stand still and see the “salvation of Jehovah” in their behalf.—2 Chronicles 20:15-17.
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Mum
When I attended my JC meeting, I was thinking to myself, "If they could, they would take me outside, tie me to a tree, and light me on fire." They're really scary. As it stands, they have their great Hit Man in the Sky, but he keeps delaying. I know that, in the past, they have expressed regret at not being able to stone wayward children and wayward others to death.
Lucky for us, it's against the law. But, Caesar's law does not take precedence over "Jehovah's law."
This is all speculation. But watch your back. Fortunately, no JW's here know anything about me.
Frankly, I don't think it's likely, but individual JW's have lost it and killed.
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Cold Steel
Interesting point. Especially that Elisha, on his own and with no apparent commandment from God, decided the sons of Ahab had to go.
In defense of Elisha, the heathen priests didn't just present a competitive religion. They oversaw, encouraged and even commanded human sacrifice, even infants, and sexual perversion. It wasn't a matter of the priests teaching different doctrines; they were decadent and disgusting practitioners of evil cults. Even before Elisha's order, God, Himself, had destroyed a number of them in Elijah's day; and Elijah ordered the execution of hundreds of them. These were people beyond repentence, beyond conversion.
The scary part about Jehovah's Witnesses is that if their leadership orders it, they'll certainly have source material to point to. And their views of apostates are radically different than Elijah's/Elisha's. A priest who throws infants into a fire is just slightly worse than, say, those who teach the doctrine of the Trinity. It all depends on how much power the people give their leaders, and how dearly the leaders covet their power. Leaders with limitless power are unpredictable when their power is threatened. And the GB is very creative when interpreting scripture.
The only good thing is that we "unbelievers" and "apostates" have guns and ammuntion. The JWs, not so much.
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rebel8
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/88029/1/Wacky-quote-about-not-killing-DFd-people
Nov 15, 1952 Watchtower pp.703-704
We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. "Thou shalt surely kill him; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him to death with stones, because he hath sought to draw thee away from Jehovah thy God, . . . And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is in the midst of thee."?Deut. 13:6-11, AS. Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God's law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship.
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rebel8
^So if it wasn't for the "laws of the land", they'd be whacking us.
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return of parakeet
Apologies to Twain:
"There are cults, damned cults, and Jonestown."
The WTS and the dubs are a cult, but the WTS would never order nor would the dubs obey an execution order for apostates. The cult would be shut down faster than you can say "Armageddon."
Mass murder or vigilante retribution is always the last gasp of an extreme cult.
The WTS loves itself more than it hates apostates.