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spender

xander: newer xp's won't do MP without modification i've heard...but the old ones work perfectly though. Also, my workstation also functions as a server...I have 116 processes running right now...I run a database server, webserver, nameserver, mailserver, and ftp server on here. SMP is very important for my use...even if I might not reach the same performance as you on single threaded apps, I have that second processor to take the load off the first one when I'm doing actual work.

no decent apps for linux??? take a look at http://freshmeat.net
There's plenty of good linux apps. All our server-related stuff beats the crap out of microsoft products, and it's free!

Windows is a joke of an OS...Linux gives me the control over the system I want. If I don't like something, I can change it.

b_ster: yes, I focus mainly on kernel development. You can check out my project at http://grsecurity.net It's pretty popular (it's used in Linux distributions you buy at stores)

Xander

newer xp's won't do MP without modification i've heard...but the old ones work perfectly though
Hmmm...it was the older ones I had heard the stories about. Dunno....maybe Tyan just makes good boards...

Also, my workstation also functions as a server...I have 116 processes running right now
Ahh, see, no point in running mine as a server. Only 3 PCs on my home LAN, so peer-to-peer is fine, and I don't have a decent enough net connection to have a web server running on it.

no decent apps for linux
Sorry, I'm going to stand by that...I've worked w/ various Linux 'office apps', and just don't like them as much as Word/Excel/Powerpoint/Access. Needless to say, if you're any kind of gamer, Linux is right out (unless you only play Quake). And, last I checked, none of the excellent Adobe graphics programs worked on Linux, either. And telecommunications software? Forget about it!

All our server-related stuff beats the crap out of microsoft products
Well, I can't disagree with that. I don't do much server-side stuff, though. What I *DO* do on servers uses MS-SQL and propriety call processing software for a telecommunications package. Both, obviously, require a Windows OS.

Windows is a joke of an OS
Depends a lot on the version. WinXP and Win2K are both very, VERY good operating systems.

If I don't like something, I can change it.
*shrug* - well, if that's important to you....you do OS-level stuff, so I assume it is. For those of us who don't, Windows IS a better choice.

Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)
A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana

spender

dont' bash it till you try it :)

StarOffice is made by Sun, and is a VERY good office package. With WineX you can play virtually any windows game in Linux at the same speed. If you really need windows apps, you can use things like WINE that allow you to run them under linux. We have the gimp for image editing, and many people like it.

MySQL can do the same things MS-SQL can do, and more.

spender

though i will concede that for many people, Linux isn't the right decision for the desktop (some things are more difficult to do, and integration with running windows apps isn't perfect yet)...i think that for servers, Linux and other UNIXes win hands down.

let's not forget OS X is a BSD operating system, a derivative of UNIX. and there's MANY people using that now. Heck, even Microsoft uses BSD for their stuff..what do you think hotmail runs? :)

Nathan Natas

I have a Sun Microsystems E10K with 32 CPUs, 6 GB of RAM and 2.3 TB of disks in a mirrored array.

Oh wait, no I don't... NEVERMIND!

Xander

dont' bash it till you try it
I HAVE tried it, actually. Actually ran a Linux server on my LAN for a wee bit a while back.

With WineX you can play virtually any windows game in Linux at the same speed
LOL! I realize this is hardly a mark in favor of Windows, but if game developers can't get their games to work properly on an MS OS running DirectX, I have serious reservations about the game running under Linux...

In any case, I understand it only emulates up to DirectX 7...all of the games I play on a regular basis right now require DX8.

(Although, honestly, if it DOES work....hmmmmm...I may have to re-install Linux....I have the Mandrake 8.0 installation sitting on the shelf behind me....)

Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)
A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana

Farkel

Spender,

Do you frequently get called "an arrogant asshole?"

Farkel

spender

nope, it works with DX8...check out transgaming's homepage for more info about it and screenshots of max payne running under winex. Mandrake 8.2 is out now(if you use the secure kernel for it, you'll be using my software haha)...you'd probably have better luck with using that. If you use wine grab the latest cvs snapshot (or winex if you use that).

spender

Farkel: I don't try to be...I think people that who have actually talked to me don't think that way. Computers/UNIX/security just happen to be my forte...i've worked very hard for what I've learned and done, and I'm proud of the software I write...what's wrong with that?

Xander

Just checked their site (would have saved me a lot of time if you had linked to it in your post )

Anyway, yeah, I looked around. Unfortunately, of the half dozen games I play on a regular basis, none have a 'compatibility rating' (?IIRC?) of more than '2' out of 5, so....maybe someday....

Looks like Mandrake 8.2 is being charged for, though (kinda defeats the purpose of the whole 'free' thing). And, in any case, I'm stuck on 56K, so downloading that does NOT look fun...

Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)
A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana

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