If you were on the Zimmerman jury, how would you vote? 2nd degree murder, manslaughter or innocent?

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  • Mary
    Mary

    Involuntary manslaughter. If that's actually an option.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Aggravated assault, manslaughter.

    He was responsible for provoking the incident toward its final unfortunate out come.

    This case would be quite different if Trayvon Martin was seen snooping around on someones private property with

    items that could be used to break into homes.

    But he wasn't he was walking on the side walk toward his father's house coming back from a convenience store.

    At one point he even mentioned to his girlfriend on his cell phone that someone was following him, alerting to possible trouble.

    Why Zimmerman at the first vocal connection between the two did not identify himself as the neighborhood security watcher,

    was his own failer and lack of responsibility.

    One should also keep in mind that Trayvon Martin was a teenager and responded like a teenager/adolescent.

    The other mitigating factor to this case is that Trayvon didn't and wasn't using a weapon during the

    altercation such brandishing a knife. That again would change the legality of Zimmerman to use a personal weapon

    of his own to protect his own life.

    I've seen a lot of fights over the years by guys who for some reason or the other get into a fist to cuff, but I cant say that just

    because one the individuals realized that he was not winning and losing the battle that it was fair play to produce a lethal weapon

    and kill the other opponent.

    I'm sure Zimmerman could of said OK OK stop I'll leave you alone, broken up the joust and walk away but from all the information

    that came forward that it was him that instigated the fight and the altercation so more responsibility should be on to himself

    and his actions.

  • sosoconfused
    sosoconfused

    finkle your common sense and humane reasoning are a breath of fresh air

    manslaughter

  • Think About It
    Think About It

    Voluntary manslaughter. GZ caused this to escalate to it's eventual outcome, and he acted way beyond the authority he had. We cannot have idiots carrying guns out in public, just looking for an excuse to use them.

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    Innocent

  • Gypsy Sam
    Gypsy Sam

    Manslaughter. Living in Florida now, after being raised in New England has opened my eyes to a level of racism that I was not raised with and cannot believe still exists. I feel Zimmerman was looking for trouble and had it been a white or Hispanic kid, there wouldn't have been a young man murdered.

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    Manslaughter, at the least. not a justified killing. Second degree murder, maybe. (If I understand correctly, and I'm not sure I do completely understand, there must be "ill will, hatred or spite" to be second degree murder. I think calling TM a 'F-ing punk' and one of the 'assholes' who 'always get away' shows Zimmerman's 'ill will' toward TM. so second degree murder, maybe.)

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    I'm sure the jury knows well of the importance to the verdict and charge according to the law, as well the public sensitivity to the case.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Kind of seems also that Zimmerman was looking for some retribution for thefts and burglaries that previously occurred in the

    neighborhood by known and recognized black teenagers.

    That I'm sure juiced up his aggressive approach with TM.

    Only problem is that he was innocent of doing any wrong at the time, his only fault was that he was a black teenager wearing

    a hoody walking down the street.

  • Wasanelder Once
    Wasanelder Once

    If Zimmerman is not guilty of 2nd degree murder it is because it was self defense. Self defense is not a crime. It is not manslaughter. So if they do not find him guilty of 2nd degree murder he must be found without guilt in all possibilities. It cant be Self Defense towards one charge and not the other. Makes no sense. I think he is not guilty by virtue of surviving the clashing of two idiots in the rain.

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