Those people with the cardboard signs.

by Princess 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • Princess
    Princess

    What do you do when you see people holding the cardboard signs? Sunday afternoon I was driving to a day spa in Seattle for a pedicure. I was sitting at a red light and there was an older man holding a cardboard sign. It said he was a veteran and wanted work and that he was homeless and desperate. Something about him really made me feel bad. I lowered my window and gave him all the money in my wallet. It wasn't much and I felt bad that it was all I could give him. I don't usually do that but he wasn't asking for money and that surprised me. Most just want handouts. I closed the window and wanted to cry. I felt ridiculous going for a pedicure when this poor man had no home.

    On the other hand, last summer we were walking down at the Seattle waterfront and there was a young man sitting on the sidewalk with his baby and he was holding a sign asking for money or help or something. His baby was clean and well dressed and sitting in a nice stroller playing with some Lamaze toys. I felt like he was probably scamming the tourists. He obviously wasn't in dire straits.

    When I was a dub I don't think I would have done anything. Since leaving I have watched my husband give money to many people who obviously needed it. I make sure our kids see us helping others as well. We buy new toys for Toys for Tots at Christmas. They are sad that some kids' parents don't have the money to buy them toys.

    What do you do when you see someone holding one of those cardboard signs? I don't mean to sound preachy. I'm just curious. Something about that man really touched me.

    Princess

  • Dawn
    Dawn

    I'm always a "little" skeptical about the ones holding the "Vietnam Veteran" sign and they're only 20 years old!!

    My friend and I came up with a great idea - put together packets to hand to the homeless:
    * list of resources w/addresses & phone numbers (like shelters, etc)
    * 2 bus tickets (for city transit) so they can get to a shelter
    * a bar of soap, toothbrush, and toothpast
    * a note of encouragement

    We figured that way the people who really need help could get to a shelter and find help - the scam artists wouldn't get our $$

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed

    Many of these people disturb me. There are so many resources available to help them. Some have been caught begging food and such and around the corner, is a new car piled with groceries.

    I don't know how to tell who is sincerly in need and who is a scam artist. Maybe the best thing to do is direct them to a homeless shelter or Salvation Army.

    Years ago, I worked in Old Town, downtown Portland, right in the middle of wino district. Some of them looked and sounded so pitiful, but all they wanted was enough for the next bottle of Ripple.

    Today, they tug at the heartstrings of good and honest people. No doubt, some are sincere, but maybe need directed to someone who can really help them. There are no easy answers, just be careful when approaching or be approached by someone asking for a hand out.

    If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

  • Billygoat
    Billygoat

    I'm a bit leary about them too. I know there are honest-hearted homeless people out there, but the scam artists make it hard to know who is who. I was scammed once by a man near my home. I watched him drive away in a car. Really upset me. But then again, I felt bad for making a judgment on a situation I knew nothing about.

    I always figure it can't hurt to err on the side of generosity and kindess. What do I lose? A few bucks now and again isn't hurting me. If they're for real, I'm helping them. If they're a fake, it still doesn't hurt me.

    The ones I get angry with are the ones that flip me off if I can't give them money. Jerks! Like that's gonna make me want to help them next time? They've just confirmed to me they wouldn't appreciate my money if I did give it to them.

    Andi

  • Simon
    Simon

    There is a problem in Britain too (esp. London) with 'professional beggers'. They go out each day begging even though they claim benefits as well.

    I generally don't give anything to people directly although I have at times. If someone wants money for a meal, best to buy them a meal than give them the money - if they *are* genuine then the fact that they are there is probably down to a serious problem and giving them cash could be the wrong kind of help.

  • Hyghlandyr
    Hyghlandyr

    When I was a witness I was dirt poor (which of us werent?). Well I went to see my then fiance in detroit at the Eastern Market. A blind dude was askin alms. I had no money, zilch, enough for gas, if I was lucky, to get back to Wooster. So I walked QUIETLY, WAY, AROUND him... There is no way he could have heard me. But he made a bee-line straight for me. A few days later I saw him walkin in the city lickety split.

    In cincinnati people are always panhandlin busfair. One dude asked me one time for the 50 cents it cost. Well I had gotten out of a study earlier in the month, and just bought a bus pass. That was with the last of my money. So I said to this dude, hey man, I dont have any money at all. I was lucky to get a bus pass earlier in the month and I am broke. Then he told me I didnt have to lie to him yada yada yada.

    Well that was it. I pulled out my wallet flashing NO MONEY. Turned my pockets inside out with NO MONEY and walked towards him shouting obscenties telling him he needed to give me money because i was dead broke and he had more money on him than I did. He took off.

    At that time btw I looked like Charles Manson, long hair, huge bushy beard. Like I said before, when I look like that no one messes with me. I love it.

    One time, right after I got out of a study and took my wife to arbys. SOme five for five special or something. I bought ten, she was eaten one and I was. Some dude came in askin for food, so I just gave him the sack. Big deal I had money then.

    Another time I picked up a hitch hiker, right after a study of course. Drove him to a shelter a hundred or so miles away in the town he was headin for, gave him a hundred bucks and a few numbers so he could call about studies himself.

    So it really depends on the circumstances. If you are gonna try to freakin scam me, watch out. On the other hand if I have just done a study, since they pay so well, who cares, fine takes some money, looks it's paper.

    I am pretty apathetic about crap like that.

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    My rule of thumb is anyone hassling people or coming up and asking, or sat somewhere people have to go by or near (like an ATM) gets nothing. Also, someone obviously Jonseing or drunk or high gets nothing.

    I also won't give money to someone playing an instrument badly, or to those human statues/mime artists, but that's different. I don't want to encourage one or get any closer to them than I have to.

    Beggars, buskers (i.e. professional street proformers), charity collectors... they get the shrapnel in my pocket, unless I can't afford it. For ages I didn't, and then decided I simply preffered giving what I could when I could - but I understand and respect those who don't choose to.

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    There is some good scam artists out there. I saw a good show on TV one time about some of these professional beggars. They had a hidden camera on this one fellow. He looks so pathetic all dirty and tattered clothes. Then after he put in his time on the corner, he walked around a corner, opened the door of this late modeled van, pulled off his overalls, got in and drove off. The Van was better than anything I could afford. They were saying how some these guys pull in maybe 40 to 50 thousand a year, tax free.

    Then you have the ones that are either addicts or mentally ill people. There is one young woman that I see at the bus stop. She is an addict and I have got to know her a bit. I used to give her a little bit of change but the last time I saw her I asked if she was hungry and she said yes. I gave her a sandwich and she was much appreciative of my kindness. It made me feel good that I could make a little difference in someone’s life. That’s what I feel is being "Christ" like.

    Will

    "I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
    Mark Twain

  • moman
    moman

    One of my oldest & vivid memories was when I was about 6 yrs. old.
    I was walking with my father & a pan-handeler approached asking for some money for a sandwich.
    To my horror, my dad grabbed him by the shirt like a rag doll, & dragged him into a deli nearby, he said, "You want a sandwich, well I'll get you a sandwich!"
    He walked up & down the isles picking up food items, paid for them, shoved them into the pan-handlers arms, grabbed me & walked out.
    Its something I'll never forget!

  • ChuckD
    ChuckD

    Saw this article online.

    DETROIT—According to survey results released Monday by the American Panhandlers Association, less than one percent of U.S. pedestrians gots 50 cent for the bus.

    "Despite the current economic boom, we found that the average man on the street don't got 50 cent to spare for the bus," said Nate Braxton, president of the Detroit-based APA, the nation's largest coalition of beggars, itinerants, and street loons. "Exactly why he don't got no change is puzzling. After all, given the robust state of the American economy, you'd think he got a little something extra to help a man get 'cross town."

    In the survey, APA members in 15 major U.S. cities expressed their bus-fare needs to more than 2,700 pedestrians on the sidewalks of busy downtown areas, on park benches, and in the glass-enclosed entryways of McDonald's restaurants. In 99.7 percent of the cases, the pedestrian replied that they sorry, but they ain't got even a quarter.

    "What up with that?" Braxton asked. "Wall Street havin' one of the biggest sustained bull markets in history, but ain't nobody got change so I can get to my job over on the West Side? Where all the money at?"

    Ray-Ray, an APA researcher who manned a downtown Atlanta street corner for 120 hours in January, found that not only does virtually no one got 50 cent for the D line, man, ain't hardly nobody who can even spare a little change toward gettin' something to eat.

    "I made it clear to the people I approached that I sure would appreciate whatever they got, even if it ain't much," Ray-Ray said. "I also made it clear that the money ain't for booze or no drugs. But still, no luck. Apparently, can't nobody help a fella out."

    "If a man can't even scrounge up a little change for the bus," Ray-Ray continued, "what the odds he got enough money to get me to Cleveland or help pay for my baby's operation?"

    According to experts, the dearth of spare change in Americans' pockets may be a troubling indicator of economic hardship to come.

    "Much like during the Roaring '20s, Americans are living in the now, spending money as quickly as they earn it," said economist Randall Farber of the Wharton School of Business. "They got they fancy leather shoes and leather briefcase, but they ain't even got a haf dollar in cash to they name. With so few people budgeting with an eye toward the future, a collapse seems all but inevitable."

    Despite the ominous economic forecast, Braxton said he is trying to focus on the positive.

    "True, it nearly impossible to find a dude with 50 cent to spare," Braxton said, "but statistical data reveal that nearly three percent of pedestrians got between five and ten cent to go towards a new pair of shoes if the APA member's old ones shot, and that the average amount donated doubled when the member explain that the shoes needed so he could do the work this guy Ed Wilson lined up for him."

    Pleased with the success of its research, if not the results, the APA will conduct another survey later this year concerning the alarmingly poor time-management skills of pedestrians.

    "While attempting to collect demographic information from pedestrians in our study, such as where they from or where they headed, we discovered that very few Americans got a minute to come over and talk," Braxton said. "In fact, some were so rushed and time-stressed, they couldn't even spare a moment to acknowledge that we aksed them a question."

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