Personality Disorders Attracted to JWism

by skeeter1 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Are there personality disorders that find the Watchtower an appealing fit? I have read it before that people with personality issues are attracted to extreme religions, and that extreme religions can make a "normal" person mentallly ill.

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    To start off with, I was reading about Obsessive-Compulsive Disorders and this "profile" seemed like the "normal" JWs I know:

    DSM [ edit source | edit beta ]

    The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, (DSM IV-TR = 301.4), a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines obsessive–compulsive personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster C) as: [11]

    A pervasive pattern of preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:

    1. is preoccupied with details, rules, lists, order, organization, or schedules to the extent that the major point of the activity is lost
    2. shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met)
    3. is excessively devoted to work and productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships (not accounted for by obvious economic necessity)
    4. is overconscientious, scrupulous, and inflexible about matters of morality, ethics, or values (not accounted for by cultural or religious identification)
    5. is unable to discard worn-out or worthless objects even when they have no sentimental value
    6. is reluctant to delegate tasks or to work with others unless they submit to exactly his or her way of doing things
    7. adopts a miserly spending style toward both self and others; money is viewed as something to be hoarded for future catastrophes
    8. shows rigidity and stubbornnes
  • ShirleyW
    ShirleyW

    The title of your post says it all for the majority of the Dubs . . . case closed.

  • adamah
    adamah

    skeeter, interesting thread.

    I agree: some personality types are a better fit than others for JWs, and it's a bit like Goldilocks porridge: not too much, not too little, but just right. The JW message is such that individuals will select the group, and it's a natural-born-fit. JWs of course cannot FORCE anyone to join (aside from born-ins, who really don't stand a chance unless they're really strong-willed risk-takers).

    Just remember, though: as an ex-JW, you're going to likely be listing traits you probably should be looking for in YOURSELVES, since leaving the JWs (whether under your own power or if DFed/DAed) doesn't mean these traits will automatically disappear overnight, on their own. Instead, people have to WANT to change, and you can't do that if you aren't even aware of a problem. So in that regard, it's a good thing to consider the topic.

    Adam

  • Julia Orwell
    Julia Orwell

    Well I developed a lot of those things when I became a JW but before that, the world was my oyster and I could do anything. Now my confidence is shot because of all those things.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Point taken. I am dealing with someone who, I think, has an Obsessive Compulisve Disorder. This person came into the Truth, not born in, and the OCD-like illness just set him up to be "perfectly" JW. Now, that the OCD is mushrooming out of control, the JWs in his life are blaming him for not being Christian-like enough (i.e. leaving it in Jehovah's hands, turning other cheek, etc.) But, I don't think the other JWs around him see that his OCD is what brought him into being a JW and what gives him issues on compulsively thinking/acting things out.

    As I am reading on OCD, I see that pedophiles have OCD type obsessions with child pornography & child sex. We all know that the JWs don't harbor pedophiles, NOT!

    Shoot, I am always thinking, "What's wrong with me?" Especially whenever I speak about my JW past to non-JWs. One time, I was asked to tell a large group. As I was giving my speech, I kept thinking, "They must think I'm looney-tuney." i was relieved when a few people came up to meet me. One said, "You are not crazy, you are a survivor."

    I am interested in knowing if you know of other personality type disorders that "fit" with the JWs.

    This is when I really need Lady Lee . . . pm me if you are out there. You also know how to get a hold of me. Lady Lee, needing your help.....

    Skeeter

  • LostGeneration
    LostGeneration

    Considering JWs are such poor recruiters, it would be hard to prove certain disorders are specifically drawn to the witness lifestyle.

    I do, however, believe that the Witness lifestyle contributes to personality disorders. Its nearly impossible to live a sane and normal life in the here and now while fully believing 99.9% of the world is about to be slaughtered. Something has to give- most will quietly and secretly deny that the JW Armageddon will ever happen (this is how I functioned in the religion until my mid-thirties) while those who truly believe it 100% suffer the disorders described.

  • Julia Orwell
    Julia Orwell

    I suffered some things because we were constantly being held up to this unrealistic and unattainable ideal set out by the Watchtower. When you are constantly being fed the message that you are never good enough or do enough, it messes up your sense of worth. When this ideal is constantly held up, you compare everyone to it and become completely judgemental and a stickler for stupid rules.

  • Reopened Mind
    Reopened Mind

    Good summation Julia.

    Reopened Mind

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

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    Skeeter,

    You might find the 1983 article by MacDonald and Luckett helpful. It’s pretty extensive in its evaluation. I highlight a few key elements in an article on my blog.

    See Jehovah’s Witnesses and psychiatric diagnoses? available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/02/jehovahs-witnesses-and-psychiatric.html

    Marvin Shilmer

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    I think Julia said it best "When this ideal is constantly held up, you compare everyone to it and become completely judgmental and a stickler for stupid rules."

    I was never good enough, I never had enough faith, I did not rely on Jehovah enough, I did not study enough, the list of what I did wrong was always, always, always, in front of me. I married a man who had been an elder for 12 before we were married and he was asked to move to a hall where the need was great for elders. It was in the country which meant we had to drive and drive and drive around aimlessly just racking on the miles but it also meant I was stuck in a car with anywhere between five to six other people who HATED ME being the only elder's wife in the hall.

    I was young than early 20's and did not know how to stand up for myself at all. I could do nothing right in the eyes of these people, what I said at the door was ripped apart as soon as we left the door, my fear of dogs was ridiculed, I had to work 30 hours a week to support this stupid waste of time plus try to get in my 90 hours a month pioneer hours yet I was talked to about my falling asleep while we were driving around between doors. I was exhausted which only leads to OCD even more. I totally had OCD at that time.

    The whole thing looking back is just a pressure cooker for mental illness.

    LITS

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