Adjustments In Understanding--2013/7/15/Watchtower!

by Atlantis 56 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  konceptual99

  This from the website reporting on the Oct 12 AGM...

  The evidence points to the following conclusion: “The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.”

  ..and...

  Consequently, Jesus will reward “the faithful and discreet slave” by resurrecting the individual members of that group to heavenly life and by giving them royal authority over all Christ’s belongings in heaven and on earth. This is the same reward promised to all faithful anointed Christians. — Luke 22:28-30; Revelation 20:6 .

  I'll check the magazine to see how it words it there.
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  sir82

  Consequently, Jesus will reward “the faithful and discreet slave” by resurrecting the individual members of that group to heavenly life and by giving them royal authority over all Christ’s belongings in heaven and on earth. This is the same reward promised to all faithful anointed Christians.

  This is utter gibberish.

  Jesus said "the reward" goes to the "faithful and discreet slave".

  Now they are saying that "the same reward" goes to (A) the "faithful and discreet slave" AND (B) "all faithful anointed Christians" - even those who were never ever part of the "faithful and discreet slave".

  So in which verse did Jesus promise this "same reward" to anointed folks who are not part of the "faithful and discreet slave"?

  Honestly, can these goobers even concentrate for more than 10 seconds on a thought?
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  SloppyJoe

  So my question would be is what is so special about the FDS? They and all the annointed get the same reward. While there is no explanation on how they get appointed over the belongings on earth while they are in heaven, or the fact that they already own and control all of the earthly belongings anyway.
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  konceptual99

  This is what the WT July 15 has to say...

  18 In view of the foregoing, what can we conclude? When Jesus comes for judgment during the great tribulation, he will find that the faithful slave has been loyally dispensing timely spiritual food to the domestics. Jesus will then delight in making the second appointment—over all his belongings. Those who make up the faithful slave will get this appointment when they receive their heavenly reward, becoming corulers with Christ.

  19 Does the faithful slave receive a greater reward in heaven than the rest of the anointed? No. A reward promised to a small group in one setting may ultimately be shared by others. For example, consider what Jesus said to his 11 faithful apostles the night before he died. (ReadLuke 22:28-30.) Jesus promised that small group of men that a fine reward awaited them for their faithfulness. They would share his throne of kingly authority. But years later, he indicated that all of the 144,000 will sit on thrones and share his rulership. (Rev. 1:1; 3:21) Similarly, as stated at Matthew 24:47, he promised that a small group of men—the anointed brothers who make up the faithful slave—will be appointed over all his belongings. In reality, all of the 144,000 will share his vast heavenly authority.—Rev. 20:4, 6.

  20 By means of the faithful and discreet slave, Jesus is following the pattern he set in the first century—feeding many through the hands of a few. Jesus appointed that faithful slave to ensure that his genuine followers—whether of the anointed or of the other sheep—would have a steady supply of timely spiritual food throughout the last days. Let us be determined to show our appreciation by giving our loyal support to the anointed brothers who make up that faithful and discreet slave.—Heb. 13:7, 17.

  So the 144,000 are the F&DS in heaven. A few key points...

  1 - There will be a rapture just before the final part of the big A

  2 - The marriage of the lamb to the 144,000 will then take place

  3 - The appointment over the belongings is in heaven. I am not sure however if this is before or after the marriage to the lamb.

  Of course this is all irelevant since (a) it'a all a load of bollocks and (b) the WTS can change it's mind at any time.
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  sir82

  A reward promised to a small group in one setting may ultimately be shared by others.

  I.e., "the Bible doesn't say quite what we think it should say, so we'll just make up some crap and hope it sticks."
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  frankiespeakin

  Wow the Governing Body live in a authritarian dream world where nobody can question their assumptions. In their minds all they have to do is make up a story about what the bible means and it is "true" end of story.
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  caliber

  in keeping with the illustration of dispensing "spiritual food"... have any of you realized that all food has an expiry date

  read your labels carefully !!

  

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  "Jesus promised that small group of men that a fine reward awaited them for their faithfulness. They would share his throne of kingly authority. But years later, he indicated that all of the 144,000 will sit on thrones and share his rulership." WT

  A reward promised to a small group in one setting may ultimately be shared by others.

  " Evidently" sharing is a fine Christian quality

  if you hire something, such as a car, room, or piece of equipment, you pay the owner so that you can use it

  Can the "other sheep " also hire someone else to be faithful for them , or maybe more like share the reward sort of thing ? ... just wondering