Who came up with the phrase TTATT? When?
by dazed but not confused 44 Replies latest social current
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Hortensia
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/ttatt-acronym
This is the oldest reference I could find online.
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steve2
Determining when a phrase was first originated is notoriously difficult - unless you can refer to a published source which demonstrates directly how far back it was being used. I've been sniffing around this lovely forum since late 2005 - yet it was only in more recent months that I saw TTATT and wondered what it meant. Kind posters filled in the gaps. The phrase The Truth About The Truth is so catchy and memorable that I'm wondering why it didn't catch on much earlier than it has.
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Amelia Ashton
I don't remember seeing it when I first came.
I think it was about the time JW Struggle and another poster from that website came here.
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AnnOMaly
The phrase, "the truth about the Truth" (as applied to JWs/WTS) has been around for many years - since the early 2000s at least.
Here's an indicator of how long it's been used:
SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2005
E-Watchman: Enlightened by Holy Spirit or Another Source?
Also see Robert King and Timothy Kline--Humble Truth Tellers or Masters of Deception?http://thetruthaboutthetruthaboutthetruth.blogspot.com/2005/09/robert-king-and-timothy-kline-humble.html
The truth about the truth: you may have heard this expression in connection with the insight that the person known as E-Watchman (E-W) has brought forth concerning Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Society (WTS). His impressive writings certainly show that he is an intelligent person and has vast knowledge of the Bible indeed. How did he get such enlightenment? Is he truly a ‘watchman’ of Jehovah sent forth to reveal the wrongdoings of the WTS and the ‘truth about The Truth’? ...
http://thetruthaboutthetruthaboutthetruth.blogspot.co.uk/2005/09/e-watchman-enlightened-by-holy-spirit.html (T-wit's blog)
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slimboyfat
I am sure people have been using the phrase "the truth about the truth" for a very long time as it occurs most naturally. I thought we were talking specifically about the acronym TTATT that seems to be of more recent origin.
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AnnOMaly
Oh, I thought the question was about the origin of the phrase the acronym (TTATT) represented But yes, the acronym is more recent - a poster who couldn't be bothered typing out the full thing and it caught on.
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Phizzy
Ah acronyms DYJLE ?
(don't you just love 'em)
I used to hate the acronyms used in some of the Companies I did short contracts for, all the long time employees knew what everyone was talking about, but not me, I had to ask. I remember one time a Manager came in, and spoke for about 5 minutes, almost entirely in acronyms, and the rest in "Management Speak".
When he had gone, I asked the girl sitting at the next desk what that all meant, and she said "Oh don't worry, nobody listens to that prat anyway".
Maybe they would if he spoke plain English.
We perhaps should explain TTATT from time to time for Newbies.
The phrase itself persuaded me as a newbie to examine further, it intrigued me.
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Seraphim23
The phrase `the truth about the truth` was started by me quite a few years ago between the old e watchman site and my time on paradise café which was set up after Robert king kicked lots of his members off for disagreeing with his doctrinal spin. No one used it until I came up with it as an ironic reference against the WTs claim to truth by calling itself the truth. The truth about it being they speak falsehood and untruth which is the truth. By extension I applied to it anyone who claims truth because anyone who claims truth is more often than not speaking ultimate falsehoods, and sometime immediate falsehoods. How it propagated after that I have no idea but I guess x JWs get around on the net. Now I don’t like the term anymore because philosophically it lacks precision because falsehood shouldn’t be a way to get to truth and truth cannot show what is false from only itself, but that is another matter I guess. I nearly didn’t post this because I don’t want credit or anything silly like that, fortunately I won’t get that here anyway. It doesn’t really matter who came up with it because someone would have done if it hadn’t been me but I hate questions hanging if I know the answer to it.
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Londo111
Now I have “new yaughts” going around and around in my head and I don't even know what it means.