who signed your blood card?

by losingit 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • losingit
    losingit

    two elders in my congregation signed mine bc hubby couldn't bear the repercussions of either 1- saving my life by allowing the blood transfusion, which would probably lead to him being df'd, and 2- me dying bc he did not allow the blood transfusion and having my parents call him a murderer.

    isn't that so nice? when i most wanted him to represent me, he didn't have the guts, even hypothetically...

    so, who signed your blood card?

  • Dis-Member
    Dis-Member

    Mine was never signed by anyone. It remained blank. I had several different elders try to make sense to me the societys current view of the blood issue. They all failed. It made no sense what so ever.

    I rencently trashed the card and all the paperwork that went with it.

  • clarity
    clarity

    I finally got a 'let me die' card after the new blood thing

    came out about the fractions that are sort of OK now!!!!!!

    >

    Those elders obviously didn't understand anymore than I did.

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    They shoved a bunch of pages into my hand & said when

    they came back to sign the card...they would explain it all then!

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    Never came.

    Called them about it ...when could they come over ?

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    They never ever showed up!

    Of course in the next 6 months I was on the way OUT,

    and that little card was trashed!

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    What an idiot organization.

    clarity

  • losingit
    losingit

    I burned mine justrecently. It felt realky good. Later that night i smoked my first cigar... I wanted no trace of that idiocy. I'm happy you guys never signed yours.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    In Australia they handed out Enduring Power of Attorney documents (a booklet) that were pre-formatted with JW 'rules' about blood transfusions. Never filled one out.

  • AnnOMaly
    AnnOMaly

    Me neither. The difficulty in filling out this lengthy form and trying to assess the scriptural/conscientious reasons for rejecting one form of blood-based treatment and choosing another was one of the prompts for extra research on the whole blood deal. I never completed and signed it.

    I didn't update my little blood card either. I'd still get one every year, but never got it signed. Latterly, what was particularly disturbing to me was the clause that gave permission for the HLC elders to have access to my medical records if they were called in. When querying it, the elders said I should cross out and initial that section if I didn't agree with it. LOL, I thought to myself, there would be so little original print by the time I'd I finished crossing out the parts I didn't agree with!

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

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    “When querying it, the elders said I should cross out and initial that section if I didn't agree with it. LOL, I thought to myself, there would be so little original print by the time I'd I finished crossing out the parts I didn't agree with!”

    I knew a ministerial servant who photoshoped his death document into a life document. Because elders never read these things they never realized they were signing a document contrary to Watchtower doctrine.

    In my years I lost track of the number of elders (not to mention others) who came to me with these asinine Watchtower documents asking me how to complete the documents and what they should opt for. Each one repeated the same mantra in other words:

    I want to accept anything I can, and I want your help to make sure I’m not leaving anything out.”

    How’s that for conviction?

    Marvin Shilmer

  • GLTirebiter
    GLTirebiter

    I know who signed my child's card, without my knowledge or consent. It was an elder from the ex's congregation, whose signature falsely claimed him to be a relative and legal guardian.

    My blood card is from the blood bank, and yields six units every year!

  • rubadubdub
    rubadubdub

    Two elders signed my “Non-Blood Medical Management” card. Neither would agree to call my long-faded hubby in case of an emergency. That didn’t sit right with me, so I added “Please call my husband @ phone number.)

    I then wrote to the Legal Department in Brooklyn, explaining that I wanted to add a statement that my Health Care Agents were to ONLYmake decisions regarding the use of blood. My hubby would make any and all other health-care decisions. They didn’t answer the letter for a year, so I sent a copy of the original letter, saying I still needed an answer. A brother from the legal department at Bethel called me at home one afternoon. Guess they wanted to see if I was a nut job, an “apostate” or maybe they just didn’t want to put anything it writing. He said it was fine, by that time I had already added the clause.

    When I walked away, I tore up every copy of my card I could get my hands on, and we went to a lawyer and re-drafted all our legal documents, stating that the new documents superseded any and all previously executed documents, just in case some rouge elder decided to pull out a copy of my previously signed death wish.

  • losingit
    losingit

    Hi rubadubdub-- I have thought about that, putting together a new binding legal document expressing my wishes just in case someone from my past pulls something out saying that I do not want to receive blood transfusions. More than anything, though, I want something current that expresses what I want for my life NOW. I want to move on from the WTBTS. Burning the card was definitely one step for me.

    I just noticed on jwfacts that there was even a child blood card-- that's crazy! That came out in 2001. I was shocked when I saw that yesterday. 2001 was when I got baptized. I don't remember ever ever ever seeing one of those or it being discussed at a meeting.

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