This is my favourite blood question to drop into conversations. To do it to the CO is ace.
I'am in the Penalty Box! I asked the Circuit Overseer "Who Donates Blood For Jehovah's Witnesses Blood Fragments".
by AuntConnie 62 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Giordano
Fragment or fraction? What do JW's call it? If I am going to point this out to a witness calling at my door I don't want to start off sounding like a..............
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Dis-Member
So does this mean we are now allowed to eat and offer witnesses blood pudding providing it's made with blood fragments?
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slimboyfat
Maybe it is not such an issue in the US. Perhaps because health care is paid for individually blood is viewed more as a commodity and Witnesses who use factions get what they pay for. But in the UK it's not like that, so the hypocrisy of the situation is perhaps more prominent.
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stillin
I love to drop this one into casual conversation: Our blood is about 75percent water, right? So if you were dying of thirst and somebody filtered all of the fractions out of a pint of blood you'd get a pretty good-sized glass of water, right? Would you drink it?
Actually we are...all the time thanks to the water cycle. Billions and billions of animals, fish, birds and people's blood have been recycled on the planet. To avoid ingesting blood completely we have to die.
It just doesn't pay to be a fanatic.
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slimboyfat
"I love to drop this one into casual conversation..."
Sounds like a kind of conversation that would rather be hair raising than "casual" for the Witnesses I know. As for "dropping it in there" fat chance.
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stillin
Sbf, it does seems to get quiet after I do that.
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Marvin Shilmer
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It takes guts for an active JW to ask these sorts of questions so unpleasant for Watchtower worshippers.
Watchtower does not want JWs thinking too hard about details of its blood doctrine.
Watchtower’s answer to the question of accepting blood constituents from blood donated by someone else is to admit privately that its doctrine does not prohibit JWs from donating blood strictly for the purpose of having some of its fractions segregated and transfused to another patient.
Either the CO didn’t get the memo or else he finds the answer so ludicrous he refuses to repeat it.
For more on the subject see Jehovah’s Witnesses can donate blood available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/03/jehovahs-witnesses-can-donate-blood.html
Marvin Shilmer
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AndDontCallMeShirley
The dizzying intellect of WT dogma:
JWs can't donate blood, but they can accept donated blood.
The WT says (according to its interpretation of the OT) that blood taken out of the body cannot be stored- it must be "poured out", discarded. Blood fractions come from stored blood.
A JW cannot store their own blood for future use (autologous transfusion); but they can use fractions from someone else's stored blood.
Despite the fact that Acts 15 says "abstain" from blood, and WT argues this means do not use any of it, yet WT allows fractions, then why can't a JW justify 'fractions' of fornication and idolatry? After all, if fractions of blood are allowed then the other items in Acts 15 should be subject to the same (idiotic) rules.
WT feels the symbol for life has greater value than the life itself. This is akin to saying a wedding ring is more sacred than the actual marriage.
WT's blood doctrine makes as much sense as WT banning the eating of whole pizza, but rationalizing that as long as you put the crust, cheese, sauce and pepperoni on separate plates, then fractions of pizza are okay to eat.
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BU2B
Great one AuntConnie! JWs really dont know how to deal with this obvious logic. I was in a car group once, and we drove past a donate blood billboard and both sisters in the car became very negative about it and even scornful of donating blood. I simply asked "When a witness recieves blood fractions during an operation, where do they come from?" The silence was deafening, as there is no comeback to it even for a JW. I made my point.