IPCC Climate Change Report........

by cantleave 153 Replies latest social current

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    Glander so who would you rather listen to? The people who made the science of climatology there life's work, or politicians, economist and conspiracy theorist who haven't?

  • Flg8ter
    Flg8ter

    Unfortunatly the Church of Global CoolingGlobal Warming Climate Change is just like any other faith based religion. In fact it scary how much it mirrors the JW's. You can not look at any data outside of their published reports....about 1000 scientists that are not funded by the governments or the UN came out right away and destroyed the report. There are plenty of false prophecies, in the 70's it was Global Cooling, then the data disproved that....it turned into Global Warming.....then the data disproved that....so now it's "Climate Change." Any dissenting opinions are considered apostasy. And then the biggie!! MONEY......the report is for the UN, and the UN's whole answer to the prolem.......tax America. That's right...money will make sea levels go down......kinda crazy. But...in their eyes.....they have the "Truth".

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    Some interesting assertions in there flg8ter. Please help me out, you sound very informed in this matter.

    You can not look at any data outside of their published reports....about 1000 scientists that are not funded by the governments or the UN came out right away and destroyed the report.

    Where did you get this little gem about which reports were ignored? Please give your evidence for this assertion.

    I may in my ignorance have missed the negative reaction by 1000's of scientists? Probably because I don't know how science works. Please tell me what type of Scientists were these? What is thier area of speciality? Where can I find a comprehensive list?

    in the 70's it was Global Cooling, then the data disproved that....it turned into Global Warming.....then the data disproved that....so now it's "Climate Change.

    Again as ignorant Brit who knows nothing about this subject please elaborate on this assertion.

    MONEY......the report is for the UN, and the UN's whole answer to the prolem.......tax America. That's right...money will make sea levels go down......kinda crazy. But...in their eyes.....they have the "Truth".

    This is very worrying, please explain how the UN is taxing America? Again I know nothing about this, but am very interested in being enlightened, as I wouldn't want to make a fool of myself on this issue.

  • besty
    besty

    @fig8ter

    Unfortunatly

    And we should listen to you who can't spell the first word of your rant?

  • besty
    besty

    @JeffT

    OK, I will be the one to post a graph. Note the flat line at the end. Did the IPCC report address this?

    What did you find out when you checked the source of the graph? What does NOAA say about climate change?

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee
    so who would you rather listen to?

    The noted climate scientist, Rush Limbaugh.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    I really don't know who Rush Limbaugh is, except his appearances on Family Guy.

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee

    He's a radio personality whose every utterance is adored by the right wing. He flunked out of college after two semesters.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    Sound's like a expert to me!

  • Flg8ter
    Flg8ter

    Ya, he's an idiot! lol I'm more of Libertarian......social liberal, fiscal conservitive.

    Cantleave, one of main co-author of that report is a man by the name of Richard Tol. That report was released sometime after the last IPCC report after they had sometime to review the claims and data within. It was peer reviewed by over 1000 scientists. This newest report was just released, and is just an update (#5) of the original report. The dissenting report came out after Update #4. Now, where it gets interesting is that Richard Tol was one of the main authors and researchers of the UN board of Climate Change. Then came the whole"climate-gate" that woke him up. That was the leaked e-mail scandal involving some of the other authors of the IPCC report.

    “Well, I have my own article on where the heck is global warming…The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.”—Dr. Kevin Trenberth, IPCC Lead Author, disclosed Climategate e-mail, Oct. 12, 2009

    “I’ve just completed Mike’s [Mann] Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e. from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s [Briffa] to hide the decline.”—Dr. Phil Jones, Director of the Climatic Research Unit, disclosed Climategate e-mail, Nov. 16, 1999

    “Also we have applied a completely artificial adjustment to the data after 1960, so they look closer to observed temperatures than the tree-ring data actually were…”—Dr. Tim Osborn, Climatic Research Unit, disclosed Climategate e-mail, Dec. 20, 2006

    “…If you look at the attached plot you will see that the land also shows the 1940s warming blip (as I’m sure you know). So, if we could reduce the ocean blip by, say 0.15 deg C, then this would be significant for the global mean—but we’d still have to explain the land blip…”—Dr. Tom Wigley, University Corporation for Atmospheric Research, on adjusting global temperature data, disclosed Climategate e-mail to Phil Jones, Sep. 28, 2008

    We, therefore, do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (i.e. quality controlled and homogenized) data.”—Climatic Research Unit web site, the world’s leading provider of global temperature data, admitting that it can’t produce the original thermometer data, 2011

    I mean, there's all kinds of research and dissenting opinions out there. All I'm saying is, keep an open mind....look at everything. Yes there are changing weather patterns, have been for millions of years......

    @besty, sorry about the typo........hard time on the lil phone screen. I really have to get something larger, easier to read. But thank you for calling my attention to it!

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