Help with a part in the ministry school... teaches TTATT subtly

by ILoveTTATT 13 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • ILoveTTATT
    ILoveTTATT

    My GF has the part "Why are there so many religions"...

    I need to place some TTATT seeds very subtly... I don't care if they go right above most JW's heads...

    Any ideas?

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Perhaps you can talk about Harold Camping and how his prediction of May 21st, 2012 was originally predicted to happen visibly but was later revised so that it actually happened invisibly. Point out that an Awake article labeled him a false prophet for it.

  • ILoveTTATT
    ILoveTTATT

    Really???!!?! What awake?

  • FatFreek 2005
    FatFreek 2005

    The following essay link is designed for newly interested ones but JWs had better be prepared. More and more householders are asking the JW an embarrasing question contained herein. "The Great Watchtower Contradiction" exposes Watchtower by revealing the single most outrageous Watchtower contradiction that most of us (ex-JWs) have seen and that most JWs have not seen. It goes beyond the regular exposé by answering two vital questions: why they've contradicted themselves on this single issue and why most JWs are not even aware that it's happened. It does it from Watchtower's own publications and encourages the person to get their own WT Library CD for verification. It does it without arguing subjective doctrine, which, as you know is like talking to your cat. It's An 11 minute read, 19 minutes if you include all the supporting endnote references.

    Len

  • Captain Obvious
    Captain Obvious

    Yes reference please

  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    Hi LoveTTATT, Have you read Mt 7? It may give your GF some ideas to insert into her public talk about why their are so many religions. Jesus predicted that their would be many false prophes and therefore many religions because religions are made by men.

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    Robert

  • zound
    zound

    There's a WT article about the Catholic church refering to people getting bummed out over "New things" - and changed teachings in the church. Might be an opportune time to mention something like that.

    Probably not that subtle though.

  • ILoveTTATT
    ILoveTTATT

    Ok so here's what I have so far (A is my GF, B is the "householder"):

    Please let me know if there's anything I should add. Notice I don't mention the Bible Teach book at all, but just the Bible... I had to use the mag since we will pretend she is preaching... I don't know how subtle the bolded parts are... I love the parts that are in red... almost all JW's will agree with them but if they actually did this they would probably not be with the WT... Unfortunately, I do not know how to entirely take out the reference to the magazines... maybe not making it the issue...

    I also feel like I should put more Bible texts in there... If I could slip a Deuteronomy (false prophets) or another one, that would be great.

    A: Hi! I have this magazine, it asks why are there so many religions… have you ever wondered that?

    B: Yes, I have wondered about that! All of them say so many contradicting things! I just want to worship God in my own manner and I don’t feel like I have to go to church to be able to worship God.

    A: Thank you for your sincere comments. Did you know that a recent tabulation concluded that there are 10 main religions and some 10,000 sects? There’s even a Star Wars religion and people who worship flying saucers! There's also dangerous religions which order their followers to commit suicide.

    B: So why so many religions?

    A: Many factors have contributed to the development of new religious groups. Some have said that the various religions all represent different ways of presenting religious truth. But a comparison of their teachings and practices with the Bible indicates, rather, that the diversity of religions is because people have become followers of men instead of listening to God.

    B: What do you mean, followers of men instead of listening to God?

    A: Well, the only truth is found in the Word of God, which is the Bible. When people do not read what is in the Bible, and only accept what their church leaders tell them without verifying if what they are being taught is actually in the Bible, then they are likely to follow men instead of really listening to God. Look at how Jesus condemned such actions: Would you like to read here, in Matthew 15:8-9?

    B: (Reads Matthew 15:8-9)

    A: Thank you. So we can see that regardless of whom a group profess to worship, if they hold to doctrines of men instead of the inspired Word of God, their worship is in vain. I would like to encourage you to study the Bible with us. Would you like me to come and study the Bible with you?

    B: Yes, I would really like that!

    A: Great! So, I will leave you these magazines, and how about when I come back we study with the Bibleifthere is a true religion? Can I come back next week?

    B: Ok!

    A: Thanks!! Have a nice day!!

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  • garyneal
    garyneal
    Really???!!?! What awake?

    Haven't read it for myself but I think this source is trustworthy. It lists the Awake (correction Watchtower) article that speaks of it and upon a second glance does not directly come out and call Mr Camping a false prophet, but it did refer to his prediction as prophecy.

    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-prophet.php

    As far as him saying it was invisible, that was discussed here sometime ago. I will have to look up the thread.

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