contacting df'd ones?

nanoo

Hi there

I am new. I would like to know what the policy is regarding contacting and spending time with disfellowshipped ones.

Have there been any changes?

nan

Elsewhere

Read this:
http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/DF_DA.htm

"As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
Believe in yourself, not mythology.
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Fire Dragon

Most recent update thanks to Quotes...

*** Official Jehovah's Witnesses Media Relations Web Site, March 18, 2002 ***[ http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm]
Do you shun former members?

Those who simply cease to be involved in the faith are not shunned. In compliance with the Scriptures, however, members can be expelled for serious unchristian conduct, such as stealing, drunkenness, or adultery, if they do not repent and cease such actions. Disfellowshipping does not sever family ties. Disfellowshipped members may continue to attend religious services, and if they wish, they may receive pastoral visits. They are always welcome to return to the faith.—1 Corinthians 5:11-13.

I was DFd this past February 1st. I am not welcome in my parents' home and I am only allowed to call once a month to see how they are doing. I work with a JW who is shunning me to the point that it has recently put his job in jeopardy. Does this pretty much answer your question?
What's your story? Are you a JW, xjw, DFd, or DAd??

"...if there is a hell, I'll see you there." (NIN - Downward Spiral)
I'll be the one providing the fire.

dungbeetle

And don't forget this gem from a recent issue:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=16416&site=3

12 What if a minor who lives with his parents gets involved in serious wrongdoing and because of his unrepentant attitude is expelled from the congregation? Since the child lives with his parents, they are still responsible for instructing and disciplining him in harmony with God's Word. How can this be done?-Proverbs 6:20-22; 29:17.

If a disfellowshipped youth gives evidence of repentance but does not have "freeness of speech toward God," the parents might pray that if God finds a basis for pardoning the child's error, that His will be done. (1-John 3:21) Hearing these prayers should help the youth to see Jehovah as a merciful God.*-Exodus 34:6, 7; James 5: 16.

16 If a baptized youth is disfellowshipped, the congregation members are expected "to quit mixing in company with" him. (1 Corinthians 5:11;2 John 10, 11) This may eventually help him to come to his senses' and return to God's protective fold. (Luke 15:17) Whether he comes back or not, however, members of the congregation can encourage the family of the disfellowshipped youth. We can all look for opportunities to show "fellow feeling" and to be "tenderly compassionate" toward thern.-1 Peter 3:8, 9.

So the moral of the story is:

1) shun disfellowshipped ones UNQUESTIONINGLY, including minors..

2) give total support/love/encouragement to the elders and to the parents and anyone else that is responsible but unscathed (in legal circles called uncharged accomplices)

3) IF there seems evidence of repentance it MIGHT be okay for only CERTAIN PERSONS to pray for a disfellowshipped person SOMETIMES.

Don't you just FEEELLLL the LOOOOVE...

Carmel

nanoo,

my policy is to consort with people of all religions or of none with love and fellowship. i don't care if they are ex-catholics, protestants or exJUU's. All humanity is a flower garden!

carmel

Carmel

Sorry nanoo,

I forgot to say "welcome" to the list.

carmel

nanoo

Hello again

I was disfellowshipped and my brothers have shunned me for many years. Suddenly they come visit with me, and they don't tell me why. They don't talk about Kingdom Hall or anything else except their kids and stuff. I didn't know if the rules had changed cuz this seemed strange to me.

Thank you for the welcome.

Nan

Matty

Welcome nanoo!

Well, that's great that they are talking to you again. I kinda hope they have apologised for the way they have treated you, but I guess they are embarrased and uncomforable with it all. Its so unnatural, the way they (and me too) are forced to behave. I hope you can forgive them.

I understand Nanoo Nanoo is Orkan for "Goodbye", well thats what Orson tells me anyway - you do hear the big voice like I do, don't you?!

nanoo

Hi Matty

It would be great that they are talking to me again but they keep doing this. Last time they came they were nice for an hour or so, then turned nasty again like they always do. They seem to try it every few years but ignore me the rest of the time.

No apology - and I was really thinking there would be this time cuz last time they were particularly bad but I didn't really expect one.

Are they ever wrong and are we ex's ever right????

I forgave them many years ago - I don't bear a grudge cuz I appreciate why they do what they do but I feel sad that they are so controlled. And I feel sad that when they do come calling they are smiling on the outside but thinking I am dirt on the inside (as if I didn't know!).

They say they are in the Truth but I sometimes feel they spend more time being deceptive than anyone else I know. Why don't they just come right out and say what they really mean??? (gee sis, we have to keep trying you know, even though we think you are rubbish and will never amount to anything outside Jehovah's organisation but if we smile long enough, you won't know we talk about you behind your back).

Then I get calls from my friends who tell me what they are really saying about me! I wish for one time they would be outright honest enough to say what they feel and brave enough to listen to what I have to say! Then maybe they would realise that I am not ex cuz I am a rebel but because I have genuine problems with that organisation.

I am sorry you go through the same thing.

Yes, Nanoo is Orkan for goodbye, it's also a play on the name Nancy - so nancy says goodbye - nanoo

and over the years, it has also come to mean nancy says hi!

Just a silly thing......

Matty

I think it is the "righteous indignation", that turns them nasty. I've called it an "elder's hat" in another thread. A lot of JWs are like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, lovely normally, then they realise that a point of principle has to be exercised and there is a visible change in their character. There is a lot of fear involved too.
Don't expect me to explain it because I don't understand it.
You say "Are they ever wrong and are we ex's ever right????" Well, "they" i.e. your brothers, have the spirit directing them - and you don't. It gives them carte blanche to insult you. When I am given counsel by the elders I just smile and accept it, it's more than my life's worth to argue with them. They are spirit appointed, and I aint!!
Mad isn't it? Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could be so cock sure of ourselves? Or would it? I can tell you are not that kind of person, and for goodness sake stay that way!

Lots of Love
Matty

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