contacting df'd ones?

by nanoo 15 Replies latest jw experiences

  • HoChiMin
    HoChiMin

    nanoo,

    Welcome. You seem to have the right idea as to your family and the average JW thinking.

    > "I forgave them many years ago - I don't bear a grudge cuz I appreciate why they do what they do but I feel sad that they are so controlled. And I feel sad that when they do come calling they are smiling on the outside but thinking I am dirt on the inside (as if I didn't know!). "<

    Forgiving them for the WT arrogance they show is not always an easy task. Many families are destroyed because of it. As far as there being a change in policy towards df'd ones, not recently between r&f members.

    HCM

  • flower
    flower

    Nanoo,

    your family sounds a lot like mine. maybe you should try reverse disfellowshiping like i have. i've recently df'd my family and i treat them like they have treated me all these years. well not quite that bad. but i will not speak with them anymore unless necessary for family business, until they come out of the cult.

    i believe, like they do, that 'bad associations spoil useful habits' and to me cult members are bad associates.

    i will not allow my son to visit with members of evil false religion because they may try to turn him away from the truth.

    i will acknowledge them at funerals and/or weddings with a nod only. if it is necessary for them to attend a family function which i am in charge of they will be limited to sitting on the last row and/or outside. if i choose to acknowledge the presence of a higher power through the use of prayer, they must leave the room.

    they are welcome to come to the truth anytime although unlike them i will not pretend to love them again if/when they do. I have no affection for them and never will.

  • Scully
    Scully

    nanoo:

    Welcome. Glad to have you here.

    I believe the policy for true Christians is as follows:

    By this all will know that you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves. - Jesus, John 13:35

    If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels but do not have love, I have become a sounding [piece of] brass or a clashing cymbal. And if I have the gift of prophesying and am acquainted with all the sacred secrets and all the knowledge, and if I have all the faith so as to transplant mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. And if I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body, that I may boast, but do not have love, I am not profited at all.

    Love is long-suffering and kind. Love is not jealous, it does not brag, does not get puffed up, does not behave indecently, does not look for its own interests, does not become provoked. It does not keep account of the injury. It does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

    Love never fails. - Paul, 1 Corinthians 13:1-8

    Anything else goes "beyond the things written".

    Love, Scully


  • QUEENIE
    QUEENIE

    elders may as well save their time and energy and leave ME alone and not bother tracking me down -- I want to be found I will let them know !! I am a firm believer in the following I AM FREE WHITE AND OVER 21 AND LIVE UNDER MY OWN ROOF I think I will check OUt the RUSSELLITES and see what they are all about at least they are not JWs-- need I say more or draw a picture - wonderful...HAVE a good day SIMON and all who view my posts !!! I do not suffer from Insanity I enjoy every minute of it !! HAHAHA

  • nanoo
    nanoo

    Scully quoted: "Love is long-suffering and kind..... *It does not keep account of the injury.* ...."

    In my opinion, also Scully, love does not pick up a person and dump them according to a whim, or worse, according to what someone else says you should do! It is not their beleifs that get to me, although I disagree with a lot of them too, it is their utter dishonesty in relationships and the way they treat family members like dirt on their shoe then go out and pretend they are so loving!

    Flower said:

    "your family sounds a lot like mine. maybe you should try reverse disfellowshiping like i have."

    I did that - but they keep coming back! I am not complaining about that, it was good to see them. What disappoints me is their motives in coming back - there is not a flicker of family loyalty or affection to be seen.

    "i will not allow my son to visit with members of evil false religion because they may try to turn him away from the truth."

    I kept my son away when they called. For the above reason but more so because I do not want him also to picked up and set down again according to the mood of the Watchtower Organisation. He is worth more than that.

    HCM:
    "Forgiving them for the WT arrogance they show is not always an easy task. Many families are destroyed because of it. As far as there being a change in policy towards df'd ones, not recently between r&f members."

    I forgive them because I know that is what God would want me to do and because I think that to bear bitterness hurts me more than it hurts them. I have a life to get on with and I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of letting my life be destroyed by their attempts at "control".

    Matty said:
    "I think it is the "righteous indignation", that turns them nasty."

    Or the attitude of superiority? I remember hearing them say over and over "at least we are not like that".

    "A lot of JWs are like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, lovely normally, then they realise that a point of principle has to be exercised and there is a visible change in their character. There is a lot of fear involved too.
    Don't expect me to explain it because I don't understand it."

    I have seen it - their whole face changes when they start speaking about WT things.

    "You say "Are they ever wrong and are we ex's ever right????" Well, "they" i.e. your brothers, have the spirit directing them - and you don't. It gives them carte blanche to insult you."

    According to them only!

    "Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could be so cock sure of ourselves? Or would it?"

    No, I don't think so.

    "I can tell you are not that kind of person, and for goodness sake stay that way!"

    Thank you Matty - I really don't want to be like that. I feel we all need to accept that we all have things we have still to learn. Otherwise, would we ever be open to the truth if it hit us smack in the nose????

    Thank you all for your very kind responses. I was not sure what to expect here. It is good that others understand.

  • QUEENIE
    QUEENIE

    I find flowers remarks very interesting--counter shunning...sorta what I need to do mentally speaking..40 yrs in the ORG one does not get well mentally speaking over night (BEEN OUT 11 yrs now) LIFE is not a bowel of cherrys but I would rather be out of the organization than in !!! PROGRESS not PERFECTION / ONE DAY AT A TIME

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