Correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps the answer is hidden in all the scriptures he mentions above, but did SPW skip over the question of why a faithful servant of Jehovah is partaking on a board for those who have learned TTATT, or in other words us evil apostates?
The bible condemns Christian religions that teach, Wait!
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Stand for Pure Worship
You're off topic, Shirley.
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ShirleyW
Ohh, I get it, no answer, like when you stump the Dubs at the table set-ups just for the purpose of getting their time in and not really interested in actually approaching and talking to people, which was a topic here a few days ago. Yeah, Ok, I'm off topic, I know what that's code for.
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DS211
Its quite obvious SFPW that you have your doubts and disagreements with big brother WT. what are they? Or are you too afraid to be honest with yourself?
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DS211
Ok SFFW--matt 8:11, luke 13:29--first where is the Kingdom of God? The society teaches it is in heaven. 2. Where are Abraham and all them at? Yes in the Kingdom of God. Now wait! Before you go ahead with the whole societys take on abraham=jehovah, isaac =jesus...look at verse 28 in luke ch 13
There is where your weeping and the gnashing of your teeth will be, when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown outside.
surely its not speaking of Jehovah as abraham as the society teaches that no one is going to see God directly. But SFTW isnt it more likely that this scripture is speaking of the real isaac, abraham, etc? And before you go on and say this kingdom is meaning "by extension" or something like i get from some elders, please remember that the Bible speaks nothing of it....
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unstopableravens
stand for true worship: what you say about james and works and by product are all true and as a christian we believe what you wrote, however you know the wt has taught differnt. even if they say what you just wrote in onw article, they will come out and say he opposite. they had aan article that was call something like working hard for the reward of everlasting life. as far as heb 13 go back as reread the verses and see if its talking about old test ppl ,look who the wt says its talking about. and as far as adding the word belonging how is it ok to add to gods word? is that honest. with col adding tbhe word other changes the meaning same with heb look in the wt kingdom interliner. look forward to hearing from you
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Ucantnome
I was baptised about 1972. In 1971 the book The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah-How? was published by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.
It said this on page 216.
Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom
on page 286 it says,
What a thrilling moment it will be when, during the coming "great tribulation" on this present system of things, the authentic news comes from all around the earth that the antitypical Jerusalem, Christendom, has fallen at the hands of Jehovah's executional forces. This will be a vindication of the modern-day Ezekiel class, to authenticate that they have not been a false prophet but have been a faithful "watchman" class in sounding out Jehovah's warnings to Christendom.
The modern-day Ezekiel class was identified on page 66 of the book as
Jehovah has found and commissioned his modern-day "Ezekiel." It is a composite Ezekiel. It is composed of those dedicated, baptised proclaimers of God's kingdom, who have been anointed with His spirit for their work.
As this did not happen within the twentieth century or within the generation that they identified at the time of my baptism i cannot see how they are a true prophet.
I baptised and joined with them in the preaching work proclaiming God's Kingdom. I pioneered straight from dropping out of high school at sixteen because i believed the end was very close. ( Read the book God's Eternal Purpose Now Triumphing For Man's Good 1974 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society where it explains the seventh creative day and how we were almost at the end of 6000 years of a 7000 year creative day with a full thousand year reign of Christ to follow Armageddon)
I no longer join with them in the proclaiming God's Kingdom. However I remain Christian. I don't think that Witnesses teach I will be saved, as i am not a witness, unless i join them in their proclaiming God's Kingdom. To join them I would have to preach 1914 as the birth of the kingdom. The invisible presence of Christ. So it seems to me that my salvation is dependent on proclaiming this good news and not necessarily on faith in Christ.
I could be totally wrong but that's how I see it.
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Ucantnome
i think the understanding is that those who do good to Christ's brothers support them in the preaching.
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DS211
James 3:1 guys...not all should be teachers because they are held to accountable for what they preach/teach. So if you join in teaching a different gospel you are held more accountable than those who have just heard it and accept it, yet dont preach it toothers.
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