Question for people more intelligent than me

by Monsieur 41 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • cofty
    cofty

    I'm fairly sure it has been shown that they were not built mainly by slaves but by skilled Egyptian craftsmen who lived in temporary towns for months at a time.

    They learned by getting it wrong. Some of the oldest pyramids are asymetrical disasters.

    Ramps of sand, rollers and pulleys.

    There are quarrys where you can see stones that were rejected for not being square.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    As advanced as we get, we just cannot travel back in time to absolutely answer every question about how things were done.

    As long as some non-scientific minds insist that it could not have been done the way scientific minds say it could have been done, someone will highlight the opinions of the non-scientific minds to say "So we really cannot know." Others will highlight that to say "So God or aliens must have helped."

    This applies to the Egyptian pyramids, evolution, the beginning of the universe, George Washington crossing the Delaware River.

  • Monsieur
    Monsieur

    This applies to the Egyptian pyramids, evolution, the beginning of the universe, George Washington crossing the Delaware River

    i'd beg to differ in regards to the beginning of the universe. there are scientists that have done a much better job explaining the beginning of the universe, than how these pyramids were put there.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    There is funding for scientists to look into the beginnings of the universe. There are practical applications to many things they discover.

    There is not so much funding for "How were the pyramids built." Still, research is presented. I think the biggest difference is that one is presented to the public by governments and serious scientific agencies, while the other is presented to the public by entertainment corporations.

    I will stick with saying that there will always be non-scientific minds that say it couldn't have happened without aid from outside of where the evidence points. I have seen and read excellent information on how the pyramids were probably built. But we live in a world where absolutes are rare.

    Except for logic concepts like "If A equals B, and B equals C, then A equals C" our world has no real absolutes. You could be a brain in a vat of liquid, and the world around you is just chemical stimulation of that brain making false memories and visualizations. We could all be programs in a computer. We could be living in a two-dimensional world that tricks us into seeing it three-dimensionally. I personallly think all three of those ideas are just silly, but I cannot absolutely rule them out.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    All the Pyramids were constructed as logically perceived one piece at a time, most likely pre-shaped before positioning.

    And its probably true that the Egyptians did use slave labor to construct the Pyramids as well.

    ...... and no the great Pyramid of Giza had nothing to do with the ancient Hebrew spiritualistic beliefs

    as once taught be C T Russell.

  • Elijehovah
    Elijehovah

    Structures everywhere are of opinions just to produce books, each one out to make his own money or fame from being the know-the-answer. The original claim of the Great Pyramid was based on its main shaft. Precession of the Earth proves it pointed at the star Thuban. BUT that gives it a year of 2170bc or 3350bc (note 1180 years) because when the pole was in the middle (590 years) between those two points in 2760bc, the pole was on the star, but the shaft is below the star and cannot see it. Another source says 3400bc or 2170bc making the middle point on the star in 2785bc. People thrive on the idea that Egyptology places it at this 2785-2760bc, but as proven it isnt seen in this year. So they radiocarbon-date it and as 2853-3809bc (1000 years). The problem with radio-carbon is they toss the dates they claim are not right such as 2200bc and keep the ones they claim are right. One example is Peleg's death in the tombs of Ur. They date as 2030bc. This is correct because he died 340 years after the Flood. However, Egyptian Septuagint Genesis says Egyptian flood (presumed as Nile (was 720 years 180 leap days earlier) in 3090bc. And that Peleg died 768 years later as did Unas Sakkara in 2321bc. Thus they expect things that date as 2030bc to be dating as 2321bc. And thus the stretch back to 3090bc. However, water canopy elimination increases C-14 by 12 times which means that the 340 years from Flood to 2030bc will appear stretched in C-14 not a mere 720 years but rather 18,000 to 20,000 years more than they are. Thus we find 2170bc Giza dates as 3000bc as 2237bc Jericho dates as 7000bc. ETC. My measuring the geometry of math given on the internet and all books available shows that a shaft that high (about 3 feet) and that long will lose sight of a star in a mere 92 years. This brings in alignment several astral facts about Genesis. The 2170bc is 200 after the Flood, and when Narmer or Nar (Nar Merod) was 100 (born in 2270bc) thus fulfilling tradition that the stars called Seth were observed to compare 100 years. As you can see in 92 they fail from 2170-2078bc, corrected they fail 2078-1986bc, correccted they fail 1986-1894bc. All three of these subsequent years are also Genesis related. In 2078bc, Haran was born grandson to 99-year old Nahor (2177bc). This 100th year is a full 100 years of 360-day. This span 291 years from the Flood returns Venus to a date that spans 3600 new moons which connects the word Sar (3600 days) and the word Shar (3600 years) to the word for the moon Saros. Another 92 years to 1986bc and it is an exact number of 13 orbits of Saturn in 383 years. As reborn Saturn the Pharaoh makes his seat as absolute by his proclamation that he can choose to accept either vote in the house of kings by siding his vote with the minority instead of the majority. This is the 43-year 11th dynasty that Papyrus stretches to 143 years to fit the stretch to 3090bc. And this dynasty ends in 1943bc (last year of Shulgi) not the first year of Shulgi (1991bc) confused because Abram owned his house in Harran for 48 years since 1991bc. Lastly, the lie that Bable had the first king. WRONG. Babel founded in 2240bc had kings (elders), not a king, not until 1894bc did Babel have a sole king as Ur had king Reu (Chinese Yu The Great) known as Reu A.Anipada the son of Peleg Mes.Anipada in 2207bc 313 years earlier for 306 years (177+21+108), killing king Ibbi-Sin in 1901bc followed by the death of Shelah at age 433 in 1900bc. Thus explains the reason Moslem tradition teaches the Great Pyramid was the Tower Of Babylon that failed in Babylon's first year (1894bc), presumed as 2240bc because both are Marduk years (13-year Mars in a 360-day calendar from year 732 as 2240bc Nov 18 to year 1083 as 1894bc Nov 2 All Souls Day. In fact because Babylon (1894bc) is 476 years after the Flood spanning the 25-year lunar calendar as 475 years the Greek Christian Hippolytus regarded the Egyptian calendar date 2782bc July 20, Thoth 1 new year) as that 476 years after the Flood 3258bc. Which if the Pyramid passing thru the Flood was then said by other Greeks to be the Pyramid built 300 years before the Flood (Greek Flood 2958bc) and passing thru it.

    As for Stonehenge the closest winter solstice eclipse is 1554bc Jan 4 of which as Adam's year 2472am is 72 years after Amizaduga claimed Venus of year 2400am was Adam's. In reality not because Adam (1am) is 4025bc, Flood 2370bc (1656am), and 1626bc is 2400am ending 2400 years in 1625bc. Venus 1200 egyptian years are only 1199 Julian so that Venus as 1am to 2401am would be 4023-1625bc (when Adam was 2 years old). The 72 years of 365-day are 8-year (of 584-day) Venus as well as 73 years of 360-day. So this marker has many reasons to be used, and then the clincher. There are 56 aubrey holes to use as a pegboard. The year 6000 is 3528 years in the future which are 63x the 56 holes. So whether any astronomy holds true or drifts away as false in a 56-year cycle, the fact remains its intent is for Julian January 4 of 1975, (=G.Jan 17).

    The common factor in all religion is the concept that astral impact is a descending star (mistaken as planets when eveningstar, as well as being comets). The error is to think that impact can bring fire but not bring water, (by presuming water came fromn the canopy, and is gone). the fact is tectonic meltdown of just one mile thick (5000 feet) under the crust would put all land surface plains on the planet under water until its dispersed underground magma flows back. All these towers were built to reach heaven (meaning knowledge), and the gripe of building higher and higher is due to Ur-Nammu who enraged that Ur population was going to Babel in 2009bc for jobs to pave Marduk Street, he chose to enlarge Ur's tower. Longer temple lines by bigger size creates more precise measurements, BUT these measurements if stars are lost in 92 years. If planets, then it is pending on the truth or lie of the system. Venus is not 584-day, it loses 2 days every 40 years.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Pardon?

  • Elijehovah
    Elijehovah

    Anything, puzzles the mind when a real true answer is rejected and people wish to browse millions of fabricated answers. Being puzzled at the world could be something autistic or retarded do most, and very sad if people with functional minds choose to be just as awed and dazzaled and befuddled. It is an insult not a compliment. This is what Jesus meant when he said nor would they believe if someone came back from the dead. Einstein? Galileo? which dead person should come back? would they believe him? would they believe who he is? The story of Gilgamesh is about a king who comes back to his city twisting everything Noah told him, and yet he bragged that it was him Noah told this too, not someone else. We find the same in the book of John written after Peter died, and the others had died too, and John relates how the dead Jesus walked up the beach with Peter and spoke only to Peter, but that upon fearing John's approach the paranoid Peter relates the next 50 years how it is he not John who understands what jesus said to him... that John would never die, either Christ comes back in 50 years, or John will live 1000 years (2000 years?). BIG BROTHER might have his fist held up telling siblings to do as Dad says, but what Dad wants, Big Brother is the liar twisting it all. Religion has many big brothers on here (just to destroy good JWs), but the K.Halls still have many rotten big brothers who control the halls contrary to written material because they read it as they want to, and they force their brothers to comply or get DFd. So the purging doesnt work. It ousts many who are little brother Joseph, and it also glorifies many elder Eli and his fornicating sons at the Hall, and though all say well jehovah will expose it, meanwhile they are calling Hannah a drunk and DFing her too. How is her son Samuel raised at the temple, if she got Dfd, or was it wisdom on her part to grovel ! Jesus came to save Jews from having to grovel at the snap or demand of the Pharisees.

  • nancy drew
    nancy drew

    Interesting sites

    Gobekli tepe

    ollantaytambo

    serapeum @saqqara 24 granite sarcophagi

  • cofty
    cofty

    Elijah - I think the topic is pyramids.

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