Flips and Flops: Higher Education

by Iamallcool 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • jonahstourguide
    jonahstourguide

    Its the October 15th study edition page 16 paragraph 15

    Under the Sub Heading " Benefit from the highest education"

    " What is the atmosphere in many of this world's institutions of higher education?

    Are they not hotbeds of political and social unrest? (eph. 2:2) By contrast Jehovah's organization

    provides the highest form of education in the peaceful setting of the Christian congregation. Each of us has

    the opportunity to benefit from the Theocratic Ministry School. Then there are specialised courses for single pioneer brothers etc etc.....

  • jonahstourguide
    jonahstourguide

    on page 15 and paragraph 13 of the same issue the wt also states " Rather than acquiring secular degrees and titles after their names, true christians focus on

    obtaining 'letters of recommendation' by engaging as fully as possible in the field ministry.-Read 2 corinthians 3:1-3"

  • Bungi Bill
    Bungi Bill

    That sounds like a continuation of the theme "reading the Awake and Watchtower magazines for three years is the equivalent of a Bachelor Degree."

    Which is true enough of course -if that degree happens to be a Bachelor of Stupidity from Tasmania's University of Lower Crackpot!

    Bill.

  • jonahstourguide
    jonahstourguide

    And another quote from paragraph 13.."By contrast Jehovah's servants choose education that helps them to

    develop the necessary skills so that they can maintain a simple life of service to God"

    jtg

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Thanks Jonahstourguide.

    I have a full article now on education, including the changes over the years, at jwfacts.com/watchtower/higher-education-university.php

  • Splash
    Splash

    Hmm, I have this:

    NO NEED FOR EDUCATION

    Watchtower 1964 9/15 p. 563 par. 20 "Carry On Prayer on Every Occasion in Spirit"

    Finally he made it a matter of prayer to Jehovah for wisdom. Along with his daily appeals he spent after school hours in the public preaching work. In response to his prayers he was strengthened to decide for the full-time pioneer service and to reject the scholarship offer. A right decision was made.

    Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
    "If you are a young person, you also need to face thefactthat you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfilment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfil any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"

    Watchtower 1969 March 15 p.171 What Influences Decisions in Your Life?

    12 The influence and spirit of this world is to get ahead, to make a name for oneself. Many schools now have student counsellors who encourage one to pursue higher education after high school, to pursue a career with a future in this system of things. Do not be influenced by them. Do not let them brainwash you with the Devils propaganda to get ahead.

    WT 75 1/9 p.543 "How many yrs of secular education are advisable for children in Christian households?"

    It would
    hardly be consistent for a youth, of his own choice, to pursue extensive secular studies beyond what is required by the law and by his parents... additional years of college education may present snares.

    Awake! 89 5/8 p. 13 What Career Should I Choose?

    "But one fact is indisputable: "The time left is reduced"! For all its presumed benefits, would four years or more in a university be the best use of that remaining time?—Ephesians 5:16.

    jr (2010) chap. 4 pp. 45-46 par. 7 "Guard Against a Treacherous Heart" (Studied in 2013)

    How easily one might start to minimize the wise, balanced advice from the faithful and discreet slave class about additional education.

    jr (2010) chap. 4 p. 53 par. 20 "ACCEPT MOLDING BY JEHOVAH"

    It may involve your dress and grooming, your choice as to education. [Note, this is from 'Jehovah']

    Watchtower 2012 Jun 15 p.23 para 15.
    "school counsellors sincerely believe that it is in your best interests to pursue higher education and to plan for a secular career. Yet, their confidence lies in a social and financial system that has no lasting future."

    BOE Letter 3/6/12a-E

    "Appointed men must be exemplary in heeding the warnings given by the faithful slave and its Governing Body when it comes to education. (Matt. 24:45-47) Would an elder, a ministerial servant, or a pioneer continue to qualify to serve as such if he, his wife, or his children pursue higher education? Much depends on the circumstances and how he is viewed. When such a situation arises, the body of elders should consider the following questions and scriptures:"

    w12 9/15 p. 22 par. 16 Learn From the Patience of Jehovah and Jesus

    A person who lacks confidence that the end is near might start to make alternate arrangements, so to speak, in case things do not work out as Jehovah said they would. He might then try to make a name for himself in this world, to seek financial security instead of putting God’s Kingdom first, or to trust in higher education to secure a comfortable life now. Really, though, would that not be evidence of a lack of faith?

    Note: 45 Years later (2014), the class of '69 have lived past 1975 ("this system is due to end in a few years" - g69 above) and are now retiring. The Watchtower continues to penalise (remove privileges) those pursuing higher education, all the while using in Bethel highly educated and degree qualified lawyers, doctors, dentists, architects, pilots, fund managers etc.

    w13 4/15 p. 23 par. 3 "Make Sure Of The More Important Things"

    Some among God’s people are getting sidetracked. This may be seen in the decisions they make with regard to secular work, higher education, and acquisition of material possessions, as well as the amount of time spent in sports and entertainment.

    Although....

    w92 11/1 p. 20 pars. 17-19 Education With a Purpose

    If Christian parents responsibly decide to provide their children with further education after high school, that is their prerogative.

    (Note: The WT says that you take education only for selfish, greedy reasons, not for enjoyment, retraining or anything else.)

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee

    I recently reconnected with a JW I used to babysit for. One child has gotten a law degree (when past 40) and another became a pilot, both still faithful to the WTS.

    The family is wealthy and well-positioned in the congo, so I doubt they would have been censured by the BoE.

  • Bungi Bill
    Bungi Bill

    Bizzybee,

    I have known a few - make that a very select few - cases similar to the one you cited:

    - and frankly, I don't know how they got away with it.

    It seems that a lot has got to do with who you are in the congregation, as to whether they will let you send your sons and daiughters to college - without copping serious "consequences"!

    As a member of the often cited "Class of '69", I am only now in the process of acquiring a "Higher Education", so as to retain the job I currently have:

    - because I "excercised faith that the end was near" and neither went to university back then, nor planned for a retirement (having been assured that all like me would "never grow old in this system").

    Bill.

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