What's With INVISIBLE ??

by Cold Steel 22 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • gorgia2
    gorgia2

    Cold Steel,

    Great post for lurkers still 'in.'

    gorgia

  • Black Man
    Black Man

    Excellent post!

  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    Bobcat: But I'm wondering, 'How you gonna take a seat beside the King of the universe, and only later be brought before him.' What, did you sneak in the room while he wasn't looking? If you were going to sit beside a high ranking official, wouldn't you first have to be brought before him to get permission or approval?

    That’s a great point and I’m ashamed it went over my head. Thanks.

    AbleBodied: If that is the case then Jesus Christ saying that; “I began to behold Satan already fallen like lightning from heaven” falls in line with how you responded to my inquiry.

    Well, who saw Satan fall to Earth from Heaven in 1914 unless...oh, I get it. No one reported seeing it unless he...also was invisible, right. Tell me, guys: when are things going to begin becoming visible? We could already be in Paradise Earth, if it was invisible. Everyone could be having a great time and we might be missing out on it if no one can see it.

    TD: Well yeah, I would agree that the LDS view of 1 Peter 3:19 makes much more sense, especially to the modern reader. The entire idea comes from 1 Enoch and Moffat even translates the ‘he’ parenthetically as ‘Enoch’ with a footnote explaining why.

    The LDS view actually stems from the Apostles’ Creed, which states that Jesus was brought before Pontus Pilot, crucified, dead and buried. Then the creed states, “He descended into Hell.” But what the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Catholics and Protestants don’t explain is why would Jesus “preach” to either the wicked angels or the wicked people who lived during the days of Noah? All we LDS do is point out that it must have had some purpose. Jesus certainly isn’t going to drop by and say, “Just wanted to tell you guys that you’re toast! But I have some new angles on some sermons I’m working on. Uh...would you like to hear them? It won’t affect your being thrown in the pit of fire, but you could let me know if I’m on the right track.”

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