I find I am Shunning my family !

by Phizzy 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    It comes from knowing that anything you say might be held against you in a judicial committee.

    For me, I try to have plenty of other things in mind to talk about that are safe. And I have to admit that my parents are cooperative to also have plenty of nonJW things to talk about. Of course, the subject often drifts around to people at the hall, because that's where their friends and most of our family are. But the conversation drifts away without any significant JW issues coming up. Of course, some of those conversations about the 'friends' at the hall is about some of the stupid stuff that they say and do.

    In talking to some of my friends, they've learned not to talk religion or politics with many of their family members. So I learned their tactics on tongue-biting and subject-changing.

  • cofty
    cofty

    IMO you are making a lazy judgement Adam.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    It is ironic. I will speak to JWs if I see them, but I try to minimize contact. I’m tired of being hurt and there is nobody who can rip a person’s heart out and pulverize it like a JW.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

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    It`s hard to be around people who use every opportunity..

    ...........To Shove Their Religion Down Your Throat..

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  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    I have found that it is best for me to simply respond to how others actually act and what they do, as opposed to what I think they will do. People always surprise you. My immediate family has made it clear they don't agree with me, but they love me and don't want anything to change. SO far......their actions met this out.

    I am a big believer in the idea that you cannot go by what a person says, only what they do. Don't be the first to draw away, and don't look for an excuse. What you do is more important that what you think.

    If they begin to be toxic and shun you, then do what you need to. But they are your family, you only get one, so reaching out to them i think is important. In a way, you could just be proving the society right by being so withdrawn.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    I think you make valid points Problemaddict, but I am only really reacting to the way they have treated us, I am not being less loving than them.

    They do not include us in family gatherings of theirs, or even in news of how the various family members are doing, we hear such second or third hand, or not at all I guess.

    But I find that the more I naturally feel a distance from my JW past, the more the JW family are no longer part of my life in the sense that I wish to include them in things that they would not be part of apart from the blood tie.

    Much as my non-JW relatives were put in that position by me whilst I was a JW, I find that the JW part of my family is like that now to me, simply not part of my life.

    That very parallel, that I am doing to my JW family what I used to do to my non-JW aunts and cousins etc, is what gives me that twinge of guilt, but I cannot find it in me to be better than they are in this regard.

  • Bruja-del-Sol
    Bruja-del-Sol

    My family doesn't even know (at least not from me) that we've moved 2500 km away to Spain. The last time we moved I've sent them all our new address and never heard a word, so why should I bother telling them anything? I don't feel like I'm shunning them, they're just of no interest to me anymore. And that's the result of what they've started in the first place with their shunning.

  • adamah
    adamah

    Phizzy said-

    But I find that the more I naturally feel a distance from my JW past, the more the JW family are no longer part of my life in the sense that I wish to include them in things that they would not be part of apart from the blood tie.

    Much as my non-JW relatives were put in that position by me whilst I was a JW, I find that the JW part of my family is like that now to me, simply not part of my life.

    That very parallel, that I am doing to my JW family what I used to do to my non-JW aunts and cousins etc, is what gives me that twinge of guilt, but I cannot find it in me to be better than they are in this regard.

    That's it, in a nutshell:

    People who are attracted to joining the JWs 'self-select', since for many, the requirement to push away their non-believing family members over theological differences is rather extreme and is a 'show-stopper' for many; they'd see it as too high a price to pay to join a religion (which is ONE warning sign of a cult; trying to control your social interactions outside of the group), since a reasonable question is whether accepting a religion warrants breaking apart pre-existing familial bonds, etc. Most non-believers (and even believers) would say "NO, WAY, JOSE!", since for them, religion shouldn't cause a break in families: that's not loving.

    So you'd have to be a bit of an extremist to become a JW, in the first place, since turning your backs on non-believing family is admittedly extreme (UNLESS you have toxic non-believing family members, and are looking for an excuse to avoid them).

    But fact remains, many were willing to throw their family members under the bus at some point, and it's not like someone's personality and emotional bonding skills will suddenly change overnight; only the names change, and one gradually becomes more comfortable with an uncomfortable detente. My family dynamics (eg my Mom's relationship with her Worldly family, who lived 2,000 miles away) was a risk factor that partly explains why the JWs seemed so appealing to her: she had an alcoholic parent, and joining gave her an excuse to not return to celebrate holidays, etc. We grew up viewing them as "the others", and it was encouraged.

    Adam

  • Narcissistic Supply
    Narcissistic Supply

    Ridiculous. You are taking care of yourself. It's called survival. Self preservation. It's very important if you have kids. YOu have to take care of yourself first or you can't help (take care of) other people...

    Taking care of yourself is normal healthy behavior.

  • Muddy Waters
    Muddy Waters

    Adamah, I don't think you need to be an extremist or a person who "naturally pushes other people away" to become a JW.

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