It is quite interesting to watch an honest observer of the bible and an apologetic observer of the bible debate eachother.
Kate has looked at the bible, looked at real life and concluded.... hmm this doesnt make sense, but I need to believe in god, so therefore god is 'x' a very different god to that of the bible.
Tec has looked at the bible and at real life and concluded.... hmm this doesnt make sense, but I believe in the god of SOME of the bible, the bits that make sense and the bits about god that I like, so therefore god is 'y' based on cherry picked scriptures, avoiding the dodgy ones, avoiding world events that disagree with her perception of god 'y'.
Kate defends her stand by being honest and saying despite there being no evidence and the bible being a very inhumane book, she needs to believe in some kind of god, she has moved god further and further away from humans as the evidence has been shown her. She has removed him from creation as science has made evident, and removed him from human activity as life has made evident. A sincere quandry that we all had when being brave enough to question.
Tec defends her stance of choosing scriptures to support over those to reject by claiming jesus/god communicates with her directly. She uses the bible to defend her beliefs, but if you show contradiction in the bible, she will dismiss those verses as being human in origin. This stance is as unique as Tec and her posts, it is one that nobody but Tec can discuss or debate as she alone experiences this interaction with a deity, a miracle in itself. Tec offers no evidemce and ignores evidence that contradicts her view, much like her ability to ignore scriptures that disagree with her view.
We can only hope that at some point, they both recognise that all of this is simple speculation. There is no evidence FOR these views and in fact a mountain of evidence AGAINST them. The history and evolution of these religious beliefs and texts being the most obvious, and after talking to Tec for some time she has so far not managed to read and examine the history of the bible and Judeo Christian beliefs. Amaing really, it should have been the first thing we ALL did before picking up a bible....
On recognising this is nothing but, hope, speculation and personal want..... maybe soon they will be honest and qualift everything with a "......but in honesty, this is just my personal view, in realty WE JUST DON'T KNOW."
That after all, is simply the stance of all non believers. Nobody here can prove to me that Zeus did not exist, the best we can say is "we don't know."