Which is worlds most civilized nation?

sleepy

What do you reckon, if there is indeed such a thing as the most civilized country.
To be civilized means:cause to improve from a savage or primative form of human society to a more developed one.

So that rules out any country that allows its inhabitans to run round armed to the teeth.
The country would need good standards of living, and education.
Laws that allow maximun freedoms without impinging too much on other people.
Good safty codes and regulations and good care for elderly .

So who is doing it best in the world at the moment?

Britian(?) , Japan , Switzerland , Norway or some other country?

ozziepost

And in the blue corner we have.......

Are we going to have another one of THOSE debates?

Cheers,
Ozzie

"If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

- Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress

Richie

Every country in the world has its inherent problems. Yet some countries have a large measure of freedom of speech and at the same time a high standard of living. Added to your list I can think of Canada, Sweden, Denmark and The Netherlands to name a few. Even small countries like Monaco, Liechtenstein and Costa Rica (no army) could be counted as peaceful nations...

Matty

Up to recently I would have said Britain and France, but it seems that lots of people in both countries seem to think its OK to vote for Nazis, so lets scratch them off our list.

gsx1138

Ouch, Matty. I live in the U.S.A so I can tell you my country wouldn't be on that list. I've been impressed with Hollands laws. I would say Tibet before the occupation. I would say Okinawa as well if it wasn't for the good ol' USA screwing things up over there. Tough call. I think for the most part there are people in the US gov. who want to do good around the world. But as it stands my country has become nothing more than a virus with the illusion of oppurtunity.

Dear Lord, please save me from your followers.

Mulan

How about Tonga? They are supposed to be the most peaceful people on earth, and they like chubby, if not FAT, people the most. I think I need to move there.

Marilyn (aka Mulan)
"No one can take advantage of you, without your permission." Ann Landers

gsx1138

Tonga has serious racial and political tensions with Samoa. My friends family is pretty infuential in Samoa and they ran down the history of the two peoples. It's not all flowers and sandy beaches.

Dear Lord, please save me from your followers.

Duncan

Sorry to sound so parochial,

but it is the English, no shadow of doubt.

Duncan.

ps - which is to say: not the Scots, Irish, or Welsh - I do mean the English people.

sleepy

Us welsh are much more civilized than you English fellas.

And if you don't believe me I'll knock your block off!!

D8TA

To be civilized means:cause to improve from a savage or primative form of human society to a more developed one.

"Civilization" or to be "Civilized" is an issue that comes from a pre-determined philisophical point, from one's culture and society. One groups "civility" can be viewed as "savage" by another.

It's a "point of view" issue. All nations and tribes of the world are "civilized", and yet at the same time they are not. Some societies equate Art and Architecture to be examples of civilization. Others equate Morality. Others equate Social/Political values....etc. etc. Get it? :)

I think in our modern era of communication and knowledge, I believe it would be a benifit to humanity to pretty much drop the "civilization" debates. It tends to "exclude" when it's "inclusion" we as humans, are in great need of. Find the strength in our diversities, not the superiority.

D8TA

Which is worlds most civilized nation?

"If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

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