by minimus 42 Replies latest jw friends
Minimus:
I remember one particularly boring Sunday many years back. As I listened to the visiting speaker, I could tell it was a man with not much secular education under his belt.
It dawned on me that the JW religion was a place where men with not much going for them in the education department could feel important. In the "world", they'd be a big fat zero but in this religion they are "somebody".
I learned how to day dream and tune everyone out.
My girl friend and I invented a sign language so we could chat with each other during the meeting. If we whispered to each other, my mom would tell us to be quiet and listen. So we came up with a plan to communicate with each other by other means. We were 10 and 11 at the time.
What I thought I learned. Has been debunked...so what a complete waste of time an wishful thinking - knowledge ....
SW
I learned very little, apart from how to be a religious fanatic. Thankfully, I had little difficulty unlearning that bull$#it.
Bill
I learned how to sleep with my eyes open.
Rub a Dub
Sorry- I realize you want negative answers- but the truth is- I learned to speak and read Spanish, I learned to speak and read Russian and I learned to speak to an audience. (Had to learn that last one over after I left and wasnt giving speeches based on canned religious statements learned since I could talk and to audiences who would actually listen and question everything I said.)
I also learned unquestioning obedience, that I am a terrible person, that I should feel guilty about everything, that I wasnt doing enough, that I wasnt working hard enough, that I should not use logic when examining the teachings of the WT, that asking questions was a sign of disloyalty, that I should fear being caught, that I was part of a group that was intrinsically better than everyone else on earth, that I should give up my dreams now because the New System will be sooooo great, (I could go on...)
Unlearning the second half took a few years. Probably still a work in progress.
Learning a new language is nice.
I don’t remember Christ Teachings to be boring, but then again the Jews killed him, so nobody really got a chance for Christ speeches to be repetitious. This comment is not for the Atheist, or Creationist, but for True Christians that don’t blaspheme against the word of God. Mind you by following God’s written word in the bible, NOT RELIGION: From the King James Bible 1611 Apostle Paul wrote @ Timothy 3: 12 Yea, and all that will lieu godly in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wade worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceiued. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned, and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them. 15 And that from a childe thou hast known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise onto salvation through faith which is in Christ Iesus. 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished onto all good works.
What does it accomplish to talk or write negative comments about JW’s? Nothing, but then again, everything. Will it bring down the Watchtower? No, but it makes us feel better to speak our truth it helps those who are seeking answers about this religion, it exposes the lies, the hypocrisy, the abuse of power.
YOU PEOPLE JUST DISCRIBED EVERY RELIGION KNOWN TO MAN. What makes all religion any better? The Catholic Church has being lying and hidings written works in order for people of the Catholic faith don’t wonder off since the 12 Century. What MAKES as you said YOUR TRUTH anymore tangible. If that’s your understanding, then the LIES, HYPOCRISY, AND ABUSE OF POWER comes from your end along side Catholics, Advents, Islam, Mormons, Evangelist, and Judaism ETC. So once again, what makes you any better? To speak the truth is not to force your view point on others, without corrupting bible principles. Your all theologians I assume. Theology basically started in the 1800's. Those who truly studied the bible are the remnants of what is taught today. PICK AND CHOSE ONE, OR MAKE YOUR OWN BECAUSE GOD GAVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THAN THE REST OF US, AND THEN MOVE ON. All religions publish literature for everyone to read. What makes the JW’s literature any more special? The point of views of all religion is for all of us to decide what is the truth, unless you have a direct line to Yahweh, and then I really want to meet such a special person, as all written works of the bible were inspired by God for men to write it. I don’t mean god came to him in a dark alley like Mohammad or Jesus walked with me in a desert like Joseph Smith or I greet God every day in a dark room surrounded by gold to shake God’s hand like the Pope.
During negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordat of April 26, 1933 Hitler stated that "Secular schools can never be tolerated" because of their irreligious tendencies. Hitler routinely disregarded this undertaking, and the Reich concordat as a whole and by 1939, all Catholic denominational schools had been disbanded or converted to public facilities, equal to atheism.
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Eastern Christianity
Orthodox Christians are also interesting. They also teach you to hate and kill mankind. You may want to join them in Africa Sudan area. Muslims and Christians are killing each other right now in the name of religion. This shouldn’t be boring for you.
Other groups related to Christianity
Some of these groups consider themselves to be Christian, or to be derived from Christianity, but they are considered heterodox or heretical by mainstream Christianity. Some of them are no longer extant.
EXAMPLE: Speaking in Tongues
Lehman Strauss taught Old Testament history for eight years at Philadelphia Bible Institute, and served as pastor of the Calvary Baptist Church, Bristol, Pennsylvania, from 1939 to 1957.
He was pastor of Highland Park Baptist Church (Highland Park, Michigan) until the end of 1963 when he resigned to devote full time to an itinerant Bible conference and evangelistic ministry both in the States and abroad. Dr. Strauss was residing in Florida and writing his 19th book at age 86 when the Lord called him home in June 1997. His written materials are used by permission.
All Bible-believing Christians who study the Word of God are in agreement that the gift of tongues is present in the inspired Scriptures.
I don’t remember Christ Teachings to be boring, but then again the Jews killed him, so nobody really got a chance for Christ speeches to be repetitious. This comment is not for the Atheist, or Creationist, but for True Christians that don’t blaspheme against the word of God. Mind you by following God’s written word in the bible, NOT RELIGION: From the King James Bible 1611 Apostle Paul wrote @ Timothy 3: 12 Yea, and all that will lieu godly in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wade worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceiued. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned, and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them. 15 And that from a childe thou hast known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise onto salvation through faith which is in Christ Iesus. 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished onto all good works.
What does it accomplish to talk or write negative comments about JW’s? Nothing, but then again, everything. Will it bring down the Watchtower? No, but it makes us feel better to speak our truth it helps those who are seeking answers about this religion, it exposes the lies, the hypocrisy, the abuse of power.
YOU PEOPLE JUST DISCRIBED EVERY RELIGION KNOWN TO MAN. What makes all religion any better? The Catholic Church has being lying and hidings written works in order for people of the Catholic faith don’t wonder off since the 12 Century. What MAKES as you said YOUR TRUTH anymore tangible. If that’s your understanding, then the LIES, HYPOCRISY, AND ABUSE OF POWER comes from your end along side Catholics, Advents, Islam, Mormons, Evangelist, and Judaism ETC. So once again, what makes you any better? To speak the truth is not to force your view point on others, without corrupting bible principles. Your all theologians I assume. Theology basically started in the 1800's. Those who truly studied the bible are the remnants of what is taught today. PICK AND CHOSE ONE, OR MAKE YOUR OWN BECAUSE GOD GAVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THAN THE REST OF US, AND THEN MOVE ON. All religions publish literature for everyone to read. What makes the JW’s literature any more special? The point of views of all religion is for all of us to decide what is the truth, unless you have a direct line to Yahweh, and then I really want to meet such a special person, as all written works of the bible were inspired by God for men to write it. I don’t mean god came to him in a dark alley like Mohammad or Jesus walked with me in a desert like Joseph Smith or I greet God every day in a dark room surrounded by gold to shake God’s hand like the Pope.
During negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordat of April 26, 1933 Hitler stated that "Secular schools can never be tolerated" because of their irreligious tendencies. Hitler routinely disregarded this undertaking, and the Reich concordat as a whole and by 1939, all Catholic denominational schools had been disbanded or converted to public facilities, equal to atheism.
|
Eastern Christianity
Orthodox Christians are also interesting. They also teach you to hate and kill mankind. You may want to join them in Africa Sudan area. Muslims and Christians are killing each other right now in the name of religion. This shouldn’t be boring for you.
Other groups related to Christianity
Some of these groups consider themselves to be Christian, or to be derived from Christianity, but they are considered heterodox or heretical by mainstream Christianity. Some of them are no longer extant.
EXAMPLE: Speaking in Tongues
Lehman Strauss taught Old Testament history for eight years at Philadelphia Bible Institute, and served as pastor of the Calvary Baptist Church, Bristol, Pennsylvania, from 1939 to 1957.
He was pastor of Highland Park Baptist Church (Highland Park, Michigan) until the end of 1963 when he resigned to devote full time to an itinerant Bible conference and evangelistic ministry both in the States and abroad. Dr. Strauss was residing in Florida and writing his 19th book at age 86 when the Lord called him home in June 1997. His written materials are used by permission.
All Bible-believing Christians who study the Word of God are in agreement that the gift of tongues is present in the inspired Scriptures.
