WT Video on how to handle JWs contemplating suicide

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  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    "2 elders present, no touching the sister"

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    It's common knowledge that human contact is inherently evil. Hugs have caused more damage than any single factor in human history.

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    "and perhaps a magazine article ... that could help her strengthen her determintation to be an integrity keeper!"

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    Yes, actually talking to someone as a friend, and genuinely listening, without referencing WT literature is the second most damaging factor in human history.

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    And, what the hell does "integrity" have to with severe clinical depression?

  • moomanchu
    moomanchu

    It's funny how the JW's seem like androids to me anymore.

    The older elder reminds me of many elders they always have a stupid little smile on their face.

    A smile that you would like to smack off.

    The ending made me lol.

    It looked like the older elder was thanking Jehovah because she was finally bringing some cookies out.

  • Magwitch
    Magwitch

    That ending was so stupid. The elders cured Mary by telling her Job had it worse and now they will all have a cookie and sing Kumbaya

  • Laika
    Laika

    Why does that elder keep smiling!? Lunatic!

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    This video is an excellent example of being in Jehovah Witness la la land where the council no matter how stupid saves the day with keeping integrity to corporation values.

  • steve2
    steve2

    It could well be that Mary would find the elder's words reassuring and enough for her to have a different and more helpful perspective on her life.

    However, I am astonished that the video fails to acknowledge that for some people, suicidal thoughts have reached crisis point and professional assessment and treatment are urgently required. Even to have included bullet points of relevant professional crisis assessment help lines could be a lifesaver.

    I suppose it is "good" that elders are receiving some "training" But it is dangerously incomplete in terms of helpful strategies, some of which, depending on the circumstances, need to be actioned urgently.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

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    *Those WBT$ songs would make anyone cry*

    JW Elder Advice.."It`s been a year now Mary..Get the F*ck Over it"..

    Then..

    We have lots of scriptures we can quote..Lets bring her a magazine!..

    Mary,Job had it way worse than you..Don`t you feel better now?!..

    Repeat to yourself.."I am an Integrety Keeper!"..

    Read these Scriptures!..When ever your suicidal,Recite them!..

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    .Thanks to the "JW Elders" WBT$ Advice.........................................................I`m Going On Another..

    ..........Mary Is No Longer Suicidal............................................................Shepherding Call Tonight..LOL!!..

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    ............................................................................  photo mutley-ani1.gif....OUTLAW

  • piztjw
    piztjw

    And, what the hell does "integrity" have to with severe clinical depression?

    Everything? Evidently (see what I did there?) if a person is clinically depressed that would quite likely (I did it again) be a sure sign that they were not "integrity" keepers and more likely than not had committed some secret sin. In all probability (I just can't help myself) the sin is even a secret from the depressed person, and can only be discerned with the loving aid and interrogation provided by the eldurrs.

  • never a jw
    never a jw

    ooops. wrong button.

  • Notmyfirstrodeo
    Notmyfirstrodeo

    I have had two of my (siblings) brothers commit suicide. The first one was a Ministerial Serv. A few years after my first brother died, I was going into a clinical depression, but I had not been diagnosed. The elders came over for a "visit". When they left, one of them plunked down a printout regarding going to a mental facility......no discussion about it, just plunked it down and LEFT. That night I had my first nervous breakdown.

    Suicide is Terminal Mental-Illness, per my Grief Support Group Leader.

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