Welfare and Witnesses

by adjusted knowledge 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • LV101
    LV101

    Welfare is very popular with the JWs. A friend from Ohio told me many in their congregation collected welfare and pioneered. There was nothing physically/mentally wrong with them other than laziness. They'd somehow qualify on grounds of insanity and anxiety attacks.

    What a cult.

  • ShirleyW
    ShirleyW

    Surprisingly we had a sister in our Cong that was told by the elders that if she was collecting welfare they didn't let her pioneer, because that means she could work. I'm , but I'msure that was a rare approach by the elders.

    A friend of my mothers that used to attend our Cong but moved to Virginia was on disability, but when she visited my mother she said she was a pioneer. So I reported her to the VA Disability Dept. for fraudulently collecting from them, they did check out her case and found out she wasn't collecting anymore at the time that I reported, that was just my part in "keeping the organization clean" !!

  • FayeDunaway
    FayeDunaway
    Yep, I knew witnesses who were collecting disability for all kinds of invisible ailments (fibromyalgia, etc) and pioneering. I asked one, why can't you work but you can pioneer? 'Oh, work is too repetitive, but going out in service is fine.' It's loving the status of pioneering and loving getting a free check in the mail. Having the government you want to be destroyed pay you, having people you hope are soon destroyed pay their taxes from their jobs, so that you can feel self righteous.
  • steve2
    steve2

    I cannot recall ever reading or hearing that the organization has a "view" on whether a brother or sister should pioneer when on disability and/or unemployment allowances.

    Does anyone know if the organization has a stated position on the matter?

  • 3rdgen
    3rdgen

    @Steve2 I doubt that the WTBT$ has addressed your question in writing but I can relate this personal experience

    3 letters written to HQ over a period of a year and hand delivered to a GB member requesting repayment of a loan given to them from my 90+ yo faithful widowed mother who needed her money back to pay for her care at the rest home. We received no answer. Hubby then used his Bethel connections to talk to the "desk" about the matter. The "Brother" in charge acknowledged the letters, then gave the official verbal answer. "Put her on "Welfare".

  • steve2
    steve2
    Thanks 3rdgen. It is a tricky topic for the organization to explcitly comment on because they get free workers (i.e., pioneers) who are paid from welfare benefits.
  • FayeDunaway
    FayeDunaway
    Plus it would be dang embarrassing for them to acknowledge it happens at all!
  • Hold Me-Thrill Me
    Hold Me-Thrill Me

    Steve2: I cannot recall ever reading or hearing that the organization has a "view" on whether a brother or sister should pioneer when on disability and/or unemployment allowances. Does anyone know if the organization has a stated position on the matter?

    This is not a regular pioneer experience but it may fit.

    The May broadcast had a video in which a husband and father gave up his job because his employer said he needed him to work on Sundays during the hours which happened to be the brother's Sunday meeting hours. According to the video though the brother could have attended a later Sunday meeting in another congregation he nonetheless chose to be fired than to not attend the Sunday meeting at his congregation.

    According to the video the unemployed brother failed to find employment, received unemployment benefits, and auxiliary pioneered during his free time.

    What got me was the fact that they highlighted the fact he chose to lose his job rather than to attend the Sunday meeting at another congregation. Extreme. How many brothers and sisters are at this moment struggling with the guilt of attending a meeting at another congregation for the sake of keeping their job?

    Many.

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