The Christian versus the Agnostic

by Separation of Powers 20 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • cofty
    cofty

    I know for a certainty that christian theism is false. I'm not agnostic about that.

    I know that Islam is a harmful fantasy - same goes for Mormonism and the Watchtower.

    There is a lot I am not agnostic about.

  • Separation of Powers
    Separation of Powers

    Now, don't get me wrong. I am ALL for belief systems where they serve to anchor man to a set of ideals and ethics that will keep him from harming others or himself. If it helps the believer and does not harm others, than by all means, be my guest to believe as you would like. The issue here is a question of belief versus knowing. That was the intent of the Ingersoll's quote noted above.

  • KateWild
    KateWild

    Evidence and reason are good, but there is nothing wrong with having a little faith also. I have faith there is a creator. Kate xx

  • suavojr
    suavojr

    This is something I posted a few days ago and is how I view the world from an Agnostic point of view when we talk about God.

    I must admit that my journey has brought me to a place that I never thought possible, a VOID. I have held faith in the spiritual world all my life and now I was finally able to pass to other side of the darkness. Many times darkness is associated with evil and yet roughly 70% of the universe is made of dark energy.

    I’ve now stepped into the dark room. It seems empty at first but do not think this darkness is artificial vs. the light we think we enjoy as believers. I suspect it is natural and that true enlightenment can be obtained from this blackness. The one thing that bothers me is a sense of VOID or emptiness, but I find myself adjusting to this solitude.

    Today I do not censor myself and I am inclined to read fascinating works from believers and nonbelievers. The big difference is that I’m reading this new material in a different light inside the darkness.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Evidence and reason are good, but there is nothing wrong with having a little faith also. - Kate

  • suavojr
    suavojr

    Take your faith and test it to the max.

  • Xanthippe
    Xanthippe

    Just don't know....Just don't know. You know what I do know? I am now totally ok with NOT knowing. - SoP

    I think that's a great place to start, learning to live with uncertainty is important. Craving for certainty drives people into religions. Find answers to your own questions at your own pace. The more we find out the more we realise just how much there is to learn. It's fun, not frightening, in my view.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    One of the attractions of the WTS I am sure is it's offer of certainty.

  • mynameislame
    mynameislame

    much more at peace with:"having questions that cannot be answered" than "having answers that cannot be questioned!"

    Good quote, We need to add that someplace

    Who was it that said

    "Seek out the company of those who are searching for the truth. But avoid at all cost those who claim to have found it!"

    If I am understaning things correctly the JWs started off as the former but turned into the latter.

  • What is Truth?
    What is Truth?

    It was quite humbling to learn TTATT. I feel the world is much more fun now that my perspective is opening up. I have been examining just what do I know.

    I love the opening words on truth of this video -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MayLQx1wRTQ&list=PLkdwXpz4J3Hv_YHgopc0AKKCWshG2V0oO

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