by ABibleStudent 43 Replies latest social current
The government in ukraine has asked Russia to come in, unlike the governments in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Venezuela,Ecuador, Panama, Grenada.
As for information control and loss of human rights....
This is all pots and kettles.
It is basically a EUROPEAN problem - those in the W. of Ukraine want closer ties with the EU, Those in the East with Russia. America can butt out, and let them sort it out themselves.
The fact that Russia is not a liberal democracy seems to have escaped most westerners.
While the media has had us all worried about turban-wearing bearded men, the real threat to international peace has been off the radar. Russia tried perestroika and glasnost and it failed. Now its back to the bad old days.
JeffT-I am afraid to take a photo. Why aren't the local papers or news outlets reporting their presence? I guess I am glad that they are present. 9/11 made me fearful. The 4th of July spooked me. No one else asks. Maybe we are all afraid. They had all types of mobile equipment for the fireworks. Also, they aren't hiding but they are not public. I saw them by accident on my to the ladies' room at the last moment before the fireworks started.
I do recall the years when you just walked on the highway. The senior cops made the junior cops look at the crowd so the seniors could enjoy the celebration.
A CNN reporter asked soldiers with no markings if he were Russia, and he said yes.
I know once they punished the Soviets by limiting their night life in Manhattan. There is a treaty that we have to grant them access to so many miles of the UN. The US never enforced the boundaries.
hamsterbait - The government in ukraine has asked Russia to come in, unlike the governments in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Venezuela,Ecuador, Panama, Grenada.
Hi Hamsterbait, Don't you mean the newly-elected Crimean leader asked for Russia's help and not the Ukrainian government which was recently formed within the last two weeks. Also, the US has never invaded Venezuela nor Ecuador, and only provided air support to Afganistan, and some air support to Libyan rebels.
I do agree that US government officials should stop making public comments like President Obama has made that will only irritate the Russians. It would be much better for the USA to support UN peace keeping efforts and to provide logistical support to news organizations and private citizens to monitor Russian military activity. It would be much better to post videos on the web so that Russians could learn what their government is doing without being filtered by the Russian government.
I don't like when governments, organizations, nor people use information control, false information, coercion, or spin doctoring to victimize other people for their benefit.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
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Russia hasn't sought UN support as they have the support of the President of Ukraine currently in Moscow, who they argue is the legitimate President and the governor (or equivelent) of Crimea, hence they can claim it is not a breach of territorial integrity or sovereignty as per Art 2(7) of the UN Charter.
The UN would be deadlocked on the matter, with the US and Russia in opposing camps. More and more since the unilateral invasion of Iraq by the US without UN support and threats of action against Iran and Syria by the West, it is beginning to see to be legitimate to act unilaterally. The US opened a big can of worms by committing to action outside of UN support, now that other nations see similar actions as legitimate it appears like hypocrisy for the West or the US in particular to be critical when other nations wish to do the same.
Essentially Russia are looking after her own interests in the region. I guess it makes a change to US interventionalism.
As someone who lived under Soviet domination in my youth and witnessed/participated in overthrowing it in 1989, I am extremely upset with the handling of the Ukraine crisis. When I went to university after I walked from JW, I wrote a thesis on political situation in Ukraine more than decade ago where I compared war in Yugoslavia and disintegration of USSR. I had back then warned that Ukraine will eventually face similar fate like did Croatia in 1991-1995. The war was already discussed by various Eastern Europeans. Ukraine does not have fixed ethnic boundaries. There will be eventually full scale war. Russia will take over Ukraine before it will turn its attention to Baltic states. USA does not have strong international leader like was Ronald Reagan, who was not affraid to oppose communism. USA only cares about strategic countries, but Ukraine is not one of them.
This is going to end badly.
Russia is stepping in to protect Russian people. The US and Europe should butt out. Russia has not invaded all of Ukraine.
Between Obama and Kerry , I think we are in good hands.
