by HildaBingen 29 Replies latest jw friends
Dear 4Christ:
If you read the entirety of my comments, it is clear that I am not a racist and I am not stereotyping whites. I got a little white blood in me myself.
The whole scenario about my friend was a thought experiment. I was trying to show that just as it is not fair to generalize from two or three or even a thousand incidents involving racism to "all white people are biggots" so one should not generalize as Bowen is doing when it comes to molesters among jws.
Coffee black,
You have won tonights star prize!
Englishman.
Hilda-
I am glad you didnt mean that comment you made. Could you explain to me EXACTLY how Bill Bowen is "generalizing"? When did he say all JWs are molesters or protectors? When I see what he is doing ,it seems to me he is trying to protect more kids from being abused. The problem is not simply that there are molesters in the JW's. It is true you can find those sick individuals in about any organization. The larger issue here is the policies of the WT that enable pedo's to keep on with thier sick and harmful behavior.
Hopefully, the attention put on this issue will cause them to change their policies, seems that may already be happening.
I am really trying to understand your point of view here. I have read some of your other posts and you are not a JW, right? so i dont know why on Earth you would defend the WT. I am not and have never been a "dub" but I think most people, no matter what (ifany)religion, would think children should be protected from predators.
peace-L
Oh goody!!! What did I win????
cb
Bill has not stated, in any way shape or form, that "all JWs are pedophiles".
he has stated that the policies of the WTBS do not go far enough to protect those that have been abused by the abusers that do exist within the organization.
Hilda, you are either confused by this, or you are intentionally trying to push people off the point.
Which is it?
Coffee, I think you win a half eaten apple.... :)
Coffee black, you have won a night out with me in the pub, all expenses paid.
Meet you there in half an hour.
Englishman.
it is clear that I am not a racist and I am not stereotyping whites. I got a little white blood in me myself.
Do you own a gun? And...Do you shoot yourself in the foot as often as you do, when you post your replies like this one quoted above?
Please, if all of us are part of the HUMAN race, pray tell again Hilda, how does one have "white blood" in one's self? Is this opposed to your "black", "yellow", or "red" blood?
Something I came to conclusion early in my life was:
Our physilogical makeup as humans are pretty much all the same. We may differ Height, Weight, and certain appendages may be longer, shorter, bigger, or smaller. But the point is...everything is the same.
Thanks to science, we see that DNA in cells cause the variety of hues in pigmentation of our outer shell ("skin"), thus there is no division of RACE. There are different ethnicities, societies, and cultures...but there are NO different forms of HUMANITY. The only direct difference in our HUMANITY is the sexes. One is male. One is Female. (okay, okay, there are that small percentage that are born both...rare? yes. Non-HUMAN. No.) And even with this counterpart system, it does not dictate whether one is superior over the other. Each of the sexes are capable accomplishing what they want to achieve.
So please...explain to us this "WHITE BLOOD" you have in yourself. And please, clarify your heading which is entitled "The Mystical View of RACES (plural)".
D8TA
OOps, just seen your profile, you're not in the USA, are you?
OK, see you there!
Englishman.
D8TA: excellent point, I too am under the impression that all of us have the same color blood - RED.
peace-L
Dear 4Christ:
:I am glad you didnt mean that comment you made. Could you explain to me EXACTLY how Bill Bowen is "generalizing"? When did he say all JWs are molesters or protectors? When I see what he is doing ,it seems to me he is trying to protect more kids from being abused.:
Bowen has not said that all jws are molesters. That is right. But his figures of 23,000 jws in the US alone being molesters seems to be a bit high. Mr Bowen, in my opinion, has not verified his results in a scientific way. I am almost certain this is the case. I might also add that he has posted things here implying that jws (in general) approve of pedophilia. That has not been my experience. I just have questions about his motives.
:The problem is not simply that there are molesters in the JW's. It is true you can find those sick individuals in about any organization. The larger issue here is the policies of the WT that enable pedo's to keep on with thier sick and harmful behavior.
Hopefully, the attention put on this issue will cause them to change their policies, seems that may already be happening.:
That is just it, 4. I am not so sure that WT polcies do enable pedos. With all the rhetoric and finger-pointing--it is hard to tell. If the WT policies are wrong, they should be changed. But Bowen has not convinced me that the policies of the WT are to blame. If he was not a disgruntled jw, I would probably give him more credit.
:I am really trying to understand your point of view here. I have read some of your other posts and you are not a JW, right? so i dont know why on Earth you would defend the WT.:
I care about children and would never want to see them harmed in any way. I think that God also detests pedophilia (Joel 3:1-3). I want to make that point clear.
So far I have neither affirmed nor denied my affiliation with the WT. I do not think that people should judge a mystic on the basis of her religion. I stand for God, Christ, truth and justice. I believe in what is fair for everyone concerned. Pedophilia is wrong. But no one should invent stories about any religion just to make that organization look bad in the eyes of others.
