When and where is the War in Heaven, supposedly?

by jam 28 Replies latest jw experiences

  • jam
    jam

    1)When did this war breakout or did I miss it.

    Many commentators conclude that the battle between Michael

    and the dragon occurs roughly at the start of the church age.

    Some even argue that the battleground is the Church itself.

    Others say this scene describes the dispute between Michael

    and Satan for the body of Moses (Jude 9) or the long-ago

    rebellion of Angels who did not keep their own position (Jude 6).

    2)Where is this heavenly battlegroung?

    Some research I have done and I can't believe what people are

    saying. LOL

    2 Cor: 12,2 talks about a third Heaven, maybe in this 3rd heaven

    they will due battle.

    The other two heavens to which the scriptures allude, the atmospheric

    and Celestial heaven Satan has access to the throne of God based

    on Job 1 which comprise the Physical heavens as opposed to the

    third heaven or spiritual reality in which God dwells. Ok battle around

    God's throne.

    However it doesn't make much sense that Michael and Satan would

    duke it out in the skies, amidst the fowls of the air and the storm

    clouds, the falling debris (like dead angels) or among the galaxies.

    So where and when does this war supposedly to take place, Scholars???

  • mynameislame
    mynameislame

    Hmm I had forgotten all about the war in heaven. 1914 was supposed to be the year Satan was cast to earth. That is why all the troubles allegedly started after that.

  • jam
    jam

    So I miss the war, damn't.....

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    When - just before the Great Tribulation (my belief).

    Where - in Heaven, the dwelling place of God.

    Sylvia

  • jam
    jam

    Suppose Satan win the war, what then. LOL It's

    no fun knowing the outcome of the war. It's like

    someone tellling you the final score of a football game

    before you watch it.

  • jam
    jam

    snowbird: I thought that the war is set in the context of Christ's

    ascension and the declaration that "the kingdom" of God and

    the authority of his messiah have now come.

    I have no idea.....

  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    A Bible fact which I find interesting - but don't have a clear explanation for - is this; why is is it that NOT ONE PERSON in the Scriptures was ever demon-possessed until Jesus came to earth and was preaching?

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    That war started in the distant past. Revelation is a retelling, so to speak. It's a mash-up of stories, but the battle is real, and Hebrews 9:27 is the one verse that we should worry about.

    DD

  • transhuman68
    transhuman68

    LOL, it is funny I guess, considering what we now know of the dimensions of time and space; that if there was a Creator of the whole universe he would have to be more in control of Heaven than to let wars happen there. What if Satan won; and he decided to pull a lever and shrink the universe- to go from the Big Bang to the Big Suck- LOL the Bible really is full of nonsense...

  • sparrowdown
    sparrowdown

    To believe that a "war" broke out in the heavens would to me, mean another realm, one we are not as physical beings aware of. Theoretically speaking of course.So the question is really (as I see it ) Is there another realm beyond human sight or understanding? If there is what kind of beings inhabit such a place? And do they "go to war" in the human sense?

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