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mystikool

:Hello, Mystikool. Greetings from one mystic (Master Adept) to another.:

Greetings accuracy. Glad to know someone else in here is sane besides us. Mystics rock!

mystikool

:Mystikool,
You said "No loyal jw would obey this "new light" you talk about. We believe that we should obey God rather than man."

Sorry to disagree with ya, bud. The reason I left the WT is because one night during KMS, an elder told the congregation that complete faith in Jehovah's organization was required. That included jumping off the bridge if the WTS told us to.:

Did you note how we qualified our words? We said that "no loyal jw" would obey the kinda new light you talking about. A loyal jw obeys God before man. Matthew 4:1-11 ought to ring a bell in any loyal jw head. We have been taught to obey God from bible and fds. That is what loyal jw do.

:Huh? Thanks but no thanks. That was when I realised that the organization was trying to brain-wash me.:

Maybe the elder was extreme. Where does magazine say jump off building if we tell you to? That be absurd.

:This wasn't long after the disaster at Jonestown Guyana. Rember Jim Jones and the poison kool aid?:

We heard about it.

:I recently mentioned what that elder said to a current JW acquaintance of mine in Canada. He agreed that most JW's would do whatever the WTS said including going to Madagascar to meet the UFO's if that is what the society wanted. He said, who is to say what Jehovah will want us to do when the end comes? Only the organization knows and we must be obedient to the faithful and discreet slave.:

God's bible tell me to make sure of all things. I ain't going to Madagascar for no man. Unless he can show me where God's bible telle me to go to Madgascar.

mystikool

:Watchtower 1980 June 15 p.8 ) We hate them [ed: former members], not in the sense of wanting to do them harm or wishing them harm but in the sense of avoiding them as we would poison or a poisonous snake!:

"Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you, O Jehovah, And do I not feel a loathing for those revolting against you?"

Psalm 139:21, 22

"Get away from me, you evildoers, that I may observe the commandments of my God."

Psalm 119:115

mystikool

:Ef you do nod tink dat de JW's will do rongs, in da name of de church den pleze tell me abut de idea dat et is wrong to lie in deir church, yet et es ok to lie to de rest of da world for da church. I refer to da Theocratic Warefare, woud dat be any different den if dey said to kill in da name of da church?? Jw's will follow blindly if de governing body said et was oke and da right ting to do.:

Theocratic warfare is of scripture. But I do not and will not lie. Subterfuge or speaking winsomely, yes. But do not lie.

BobsGirl

Eh, mon cheri, you likka ze accent, no?

LOL Nathan ... you gave me the shivers !!!

BobsGirl

"May the work of your hands be a sign of gratitude and reverence to the human condition." - Mahatma Gandhi

Robdar

Mystikool,

You said: "'Get away from me, you evildoers, that I may observe the commandments of my God.'

Psalm 119:115"

Believe me, we would love to get away from you if you would only let us. So, why do you keep coming to this forum to associate with apostates?

Seems to me that you do not know how to follow your own God's advice. Oopps, I forgot, you are just here for the attention. Too bad you don't get enough of it at your local KH.

Are you counting time on this board? Will you tell the elders of your congregation where you are spending your time?

I think you wouldn't dare. Why don't you levitate your mystical ass on down to your local congregation and tell the elders where you have been associating? Then come back here and let us know what they said.

I think that they would also be interested in knowing that you are calling yourself a mystic. The WTBTS doesn't approve of mysticism, you know.

Time to take your dog and pony show elsewhere, girly.

Love,
Robyn

mystikool

:Believe me, we would love to get away from you if you would only let us. So, why do you keep coming to this forum to associate with apostates?:

Believe us, dear, we do not come here to associate with any one. We just want to speak truth and express our freedom of speech and set Bowen straight.

:Seems to me that you do not know how to follow your own God's advice. Oopps, I forgot, you are just here for the attention. Too bad you don't get enough of it at your local KH.:

We get plenty of attention at the hall. After the meetings, we can hardly get out the door because the brothers smother us with so much godly love.

:Are you counting time on this board? Will you tell the elders of your congregation where you are spending your time?:

Not preaching here, so we will not count time. We only answer to God. No need to tell elders our business and God's.

:I think you wouldn't dare. Why don't you levitate your mystical ass on down to your local congregation and tell the elders where you have been associating? Then come back here and let us know what they said.:

No need to levitate anywhere, snookums. We answer to God. That is it. Got it, dearie?

:I think that they would also be interested in knowing that you are calling yourself a mystic. The WTBTS doesn't approve of mysticism, you know.:

We do not call ourself mystics. The word only describes the undifferentiated reality God has shown his mysitcal people. The word is only a phenom word. We can do with or without it. Iterability is a differantial idea anyways.

Robdar

Mystifool said: "Believe us, dear, we do not come here to associate with any one. We just want to speak truth and express our freedom of speech and set Bowen straight"

So why don't you start speaking some truth then? Everything that you have said so far is nothing but JW propaganda. No truth in it.

"Not preaching here, so we will not count time. We only answer to God. No need to tell elders our business and God's"

Just as I thought. You are a coward and hypocrite.

You then said: "We do not call ourself mystics."

You can't even remember what you post you have such a diarrhea mouth. I quote you from the above post: ":Hello, Mystikool. Greetings from one mystic (Master Adept) to another.:
Greetings accuracy. Glad to know someone else in here is sane besides us. Mystics rock!"

Sweetie, I'd really love it if you explained what you meant by "The word is only a phenom word".

C'mon psuedo-intellectual, stop talking rubbish. Typical.

Love,
Robyn

mystikool

:Sweetie, I'd really love it if you explained what you meant by "The word is only a phenom word".

C'mon psuedo-intellectual, stop talking rubbish. Typical.:

Phenom is abbreviation for phenomenological. What we are saying is that we must use language for now. But words like mystic is only a phenomenological "plaything" like Derrida say. The word try to describe the undifferentiated experience of mystics. It cannot because of language's iterability. Got it, dearie? Words only function as inchoative descriptives.

Beans

Remember you were asked to invite critical examination of your faith...
WT Aug 15 1950 P.263
That, far from being wrong, it is your duty to examine religion to see if it's true or false...
WT Nov 15 1963 P.688
That you should actively examine your religion...
The truth that leads to everlasting life P.13
That you should check both sides of the matter...
Awake Oct 22 1973 P.6
That your religion was in no way afraid of being exposed to scrutiny...
Wt Aug 1 1978 P. 12
That you should be willing to submit everything to scrutiny...
Awake Aug 22 1984 P.22
That you should not have a closed mind...
Wt Nov 22 1984 P.22
That you should actively refer to the older publications...
Wt jun 15 1985 P.12
You are encouraged to exhibit freedom of thought...
Awake jun 8 as fact? 1994 P.21

Watchtower 1961 July 15 p.420 A Time and Place for Everything
a Christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked.

Thy Kingdom Come (SIS vol III) 1891 (1903 edition) p. 327 ***
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...Alcyone, the central one of the renowned Pleiadic stars... Alcyone, then, as far as science has been able to perceive, would seem to be 'the midnight throne' in which the whole system of gravitation has its seat, and from which the Almighty governs his universe...

Reconciliation 1928 p.14 ***
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The constellation of the seven stars forming the Pleides... It has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling-place of Jehovah... The constellation of the Pleiades is a small one compared with others... But the greatness in size of other stars or planets is small when compared with the Pleiades in importance, because the Pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of God...

Watchtower January/February 1882 pp.9,10 . Jesus also knew, of course, that English would be the language used by probably four-fifths of his earnest truth-seeking children, in the 'time of the end.

Watchtower 1922 September 1 p.262 ***
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The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914.

Watchtower 1923 April 1 p.106 ***
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Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge

So my friend go to your kingdom hall and look in your favourite library and find all these quotes and tell me that you have not been lied too.

Warm Apostate Love!

Beans

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