Have the bible highlights talk... All suggestions accepted!

by stuckinarut2 26 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    I think you have to be careful here TBH.

    Speaking from my own experience the rank and file won't get or notice anything that causes them to question the holy GB or the corporation lies unless you are blatantly telling them: 'The watchtower is WRONG!!'. Then they'll shun you.

    I see this going one of 2 ways for you.

    Either the WBT$ cult gang bosses will cotton on and bone you to rasclaat or you'll have to fade, DA or run before the cognitive dissonance goes into overdrive.

    You can't slave for 2 masters fellah.

    Pull a sickie!!

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Now, now, Tik.

    Get to know him first.

    Stuck, you may want to point out that the National Geographic Channel is doing a special on the 10 plagues, Sunday, April 20.

    This show is strictly from an archaelogical standpoint, but seems to corroborate the Biblical account of the Exodus.

    You could point out how it's good to seek answers and explanations from other sources, and that we should use our God-given thinking abilities to try to figure out what really happened.

    For example, the narrative reports that the killer disease plague (#5) wiped out all the livestock of the Egyptians, but not those of the Israelites.

    Then, it's reported that the plague of hail (#7) killed every person and animal who had not taken shelter.

    Are these non-livestock animals that were killed by the hail? Are the plagues listed in chronological order?

    I would mention that it is not wrong to question; hopefully, this will set some minds to thinking.

    Blessings.

    Sylvia

  • KateWild
    KateWild

    It's difficult to make a stand, but I could not live a lie, so I planned my exit instead of pretend to believe. My exit was bold, I lost family and loved ones. If you wish to carry on doing talks and post on here you turn yourself into a liar. When you fade you have to lie for a time. Many can pull it off and keep sane others struggle with cognitive dissonance.

    Kate xx

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    Tik i understand your anger, but we can't jusdge buddy.

    He is right everybody, there is no way you will make a point strong enough to reach anyone because you will be called an apostate and taken off the platform, be honest if you are going ahead with doing a talk, you certainly are not planning to say anything significant! Instead it will fall flat and or over their heads. So tik is right, you are here asking for help so you can mislead 100 people... its a cult remember, none of it is true...

    There is no upside!

    One of the reasons I am here today, is that a long time pioneer, elder and friend of the family, whilst I was about 12. Got up on the platform one sunday in his hall far away...and told his congregation the REAL DEAL.

    THAT is how you do it. He told them he loved them, he said he understood what would happen and he told them what he thought using the bible. He was a member here and his talk is linked here somewhere.

    Despite being on the Islands above Scotland this reached us the other side of the country, i knew he was a top bloke and I knew he must have had good intentions and it planted a huge seed in my head, I actually spoke to him yesterday.

    So lets be honest, you dont REALLY want to say anything 'apostate' otherwise you would not be so covert, you dont want it to be an overt message, so just like every other talk given to the hypnotised 100 ......it wont mean a jot, just make you feel good matey, which i understand, I do.

    But in reality you are still just feeding their plants for them with 95% Watchtower dung.....

    Snare x

    ps the talk that was uploaded here recently, that some contributed to...when I heard it, it just sounded like normal WT drone...bet he didn't raise a single eyebrow.

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    Ah tiktaalik, you may like to re-read the guidelines on how to interact on this forum friend. It's very easy to speak rudely when hiding behind a computer.

    There is simply no need for the aggression you seem to be showing. I hope you can manage to calm yourself, as you seem to be very quick to arc up and take offence...at something that doesn't concern you. I actually appreciate some of the points you have made, but I don't appreciate your harsh manner or reactions. Please refrain from speaking to me like that. Thank you.

    Snowbird, nice suggestions thanks. I will look into that.

    but yes, I have realised that it probably wouldn't be of any benefit to the general audience to say anything too much.

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    Forgive him, i used to blow off at elders here and people doing talks....... to give you context, it is like being outcast for wanting equality for blacks and whites, then watching people who claim to secretly agree and likely do, have a role in the KKK hierarchy or ask for advice on doing a talk at a white supremasist rally...

    Honestly, the apparent hypocrisy from our side of the fence can be highly angering, it seems obvious that having some balls and standing up for what is right is far more honourable and effective than staying quiet.... nevermind if you have kids and fill their head with it all too.

    Either Watchtower is very harmless or it is not, if you think it is.....time is an issue as people are being introduced to it daily.

    You see it just seems that wrong to stay involved morally, once you leave.... but it id also complex, ....so forgive the sharp tongue.

    snare x

  • BU2B
    BU2B

    Wow im glad people were not this aggressive with me and my talk last Tuesday! Its nice if while you are still stuck in for whatever reason if you drop TTATT into your talks in a clear way, but not so they can come after you too hard.

    Guys! The fact that I and many more here are stuck in for the sake of family is not hypocricy by default. Most here plan to exit at some point in the near futre. Why are some here so judgemental and rude? If the OP was a hypocrite he would give a WT approved highlights praising the FDS etc all the while knowing it is BS. That would be hypocrisy. Lets all help each other out here and be respectful ok?

    http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13968785099238&key=147a8a547aef4e54cbbf981ad1ef34f1&libId=2b8f8687-f076-4386-a533-03c4f26de55f&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jehovahs-witness.net%2Fjw%2Ffriends%2F278711%2F1%2FBU2Bs-debut-talk-about-Abiram-with-TTATT-seasoning%23.U0KsqJWPLIU&v=1&type=U&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DH5YeJDESoR8%26feature%3Dyoutu.be&title=BU2B's%20debut%20talk%20about%20Abiram%2C%20with%20TTATT%20seasoning%20(1)&txt=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DH5YeJDESoR8%26amp%3Bfeature%3Dyoutu.be

  • BU2B
    BU2B

    I will get back to you about a comment OP.. I must look it over

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    You have to remember, you stay for loved ones, we left loved ones behind. who are sat listening to these talks too.... it causes upset and pain.

    Nobody is hating, it is just a painful experience for all involved.

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    You have to remember, you stay for loved ones, we left loved ones behind. who are sat listening to these talks too.... it causes upset and pain.

    Nobody is hating, it is just a painful experience for all involved.

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