by stuckinarut2 26 Replies latest watchtower bible
Do some so over the top, thanking Jehovah for the Slave faith and see how many times you use the term " False Religion ". Make it almost comedical and throw in some blood stuff and dying for Jehovah and don't forget the apostates and make sure you are so really really really made when you do it.
Make it so disgusting, see if you can actually make people get up and leave the hall.
See who rolls there eyes with disgust and later become friends with them.
All I can say is that when you prepare for a talk while not following the WT material 100% it is just another way to help yourself and hopefully the loved one you are trying to wake up. The people like me that are still in know very well the consequences of leaving, let us at least try to reach or family. Because regardless, they will clasify us as mentally deceased when we speak up and I want the honest ones to remember me like the husband, son and brother who still loves them. Even if they hate me for the rest of my life, I know they are wrong. It is ways looking for an avenue to express what we feel.
Stuckinarut, I recommend you read BU2B's thread from last week:
In particular, I suggest you note his request, what he hoped to accomplish, the comments and suggestions from those of us that responded including our predictions of what would happen, and then compare that with how it all turned out.
You're fooling yourself if you think you're going to get anyone to "wake-up" by the insertion of a careful, but cleverly-worded comment in your talk. If it's too subtle, no one will notice. If it's too obvious, you'll only succeed in bringing a world of pain on yourself.
Hell, nearly ever single WT is full of complete nonsense. Check out the recent thread--and there were many--on last week's WT study article. It's completely ridiculous BS. How many people "wake-up" from that? A few, yes, but not many.
Do yourself a favor and either cancel the talk or give it straight meanwhile you plan a controlled exit from this religion on your terms!
Exodus 4:31- the whole Bible highlights on 1 verse (New International Version)
"And when they heard that the Lord was concerned about them and had seen their misery...they bowed down and worshiped."
There have got to be dozens if not scores of people who feel like you do....they need to know there is someone that they can turn to when it all just goes away....
Well, thanks for all of your ideas and suggestions everyone! I have finished the talk now, and I spoke about gods acts of violence throughout history, including the plagues used in Egypt and the so called reasons behind it..... So the balance is that god says " vengeance is mine", but that is also a "god of love"...??? He also says "any one loving violence is hated by god" Just a few thoughts of "compare and contrast" nature to make a point hopefully.. Seemed to go well....
Stuck - When I was a believer and on the edge of the WBT$ cult, I used to listen to Sermonaudio.com and pick the scripture then the speaker and listen to mainstream xtian preachers. I found them much more interesting and informative than the WBT$ austerity.
Stuck: So the balance is that god says " vengeance is mine", but that is also a "god of love"...??? He also says "any one loving violence is hated by god"
Well, I'm glad you survived it.
But I think you meant imbalance!
The scriptures portray a petty, imbalanced god that is a petty tyrant. The picture painted exactly resembles an abuser in a codependent relationship:
"I love you, but I'll have to hurt you if you don't do exactly as a I say. Why do you make me hurt you!"
If a human acted like the god of the bible, they'd be locked up.
